Twitter is Blowing Up over Proposed Sequel to "Frozen"

[Joe Guy]

And if it were a prince and a prince, or a princess and a princess, that would change what, exactly?

Nothing, unless they decide to make a conspicuous issue of it.

It would be no more "conspicuous" than any heterosexual couple in the same situation. So there is no problem, is there?

You know very well that a homosexual character in a fairy tale will be discussed and argued for and against on TV, radio and print.

Portraying a same-sex relationship doesn't make an "issue" of it any more than portraying a heterosexual relationship, unless someone has a problem with same-sex relationships.

It's adults that want homosexuals to be in children's fairy tales. Children just want a good story in which the good guy and/or gal wins in the end. Adults are complaining there is no gay representation in children's stories. In my opinion, that's not where children should be learning about different types of sexual relationships.

Let them grow up and learn about sex later when they become curious.

The overwhelming majority of relationships are not interracial. If interracial relationships did not "appeal to the masses", as they certainly did not in the not too distant past, and probably still do not in some areas, is that in and of itself reason to avoid such portrayals?

All I am talking about is what is age appropriate. Introducing a black character doesn't bring the subject of sex into a fairy tale. Having same-sex relationships raises questions and although those questions will eventually come and should be answered, a child's fairy tale isn't the place to introduce anything about sexual behavior.

If I'm understanding your point correctly, you believe that a gay princess should be included in a story like frozen because gay people are under-represented in children's stories and everywhere else as far as you're concerned.

Whether you want it to or not, in the current world we live in, when you introduce a gay partner or enter into a same-sex marriage, you are making a statement. You're admitting to being homosexual and saying that you are comfortable with it. I think that's great and most people agree that it's good and homosexuals don't need to be ashamed of who they are.

But that doesn't mean you need to have product placement in all fairy tales and march against Disney and demand a gay princess in a movie. Those stories will be written. A lot of opposition to the "gay movement" is based on the demanding manner in which many in the homosexual community want things done.

I support the gay community and equal rights for everyone but I don't agree with all of the methods and strategies used to get the message out.

[Scooter]

Your argument comes down to "it is the exotic 'other' and so should not be portrayed in such films".

To which my response is, it will only remain the exotic "other" so long as you choose to perceive it as such.

[Joe Guy]

No, my argument is that a children's fairy tale doesn't need to have an addition to a story that points out that men marry men or women marry women.

Hell....if that's what you want, then why not start teaching about sex when they're learning to read...

See Dick run. See Jane run. See Dick run the other way when Jane runs to him. See Dick kiss Dirk. Dick is gay and Dirk is bisexual. See Dirk and Jane play mommy and daddy. See Spot. Spot is located on Jane's groin and it festers. See Jane go to clinic for STD test. Run Jane Run.

Let them read stories that are age appropriate. If you want to have gay superheroes or lesbian villians, write them for stories intended for teens or older.

[RayThom]

Ah, the memories. "Fun With Dick In Jane."

[Gob]

Jack Richard Face, known as Richard Face, (born 2 December 1942) is an Australian former politician who was a member of the New South Wales Legislative Assembly between 1972 and 2003


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Face

[Long Run]

Jack Richard Face
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Face

And in this edition of nonsequiture we have . . . ? Or is this about a Richard who was into racing?

[Scooter]

Let them read stories that are age appropriate. If you want to have gay superheroes or lesbian villians, write them for stories intended for teens or older.

[Joe Guy]

You won't learn anything if you keep burying your head in the sand... .

[Big RR]

Your argument comes down to "it is the exotic 'other' and so should not be portrayed in such films".

To which my response is, it will only remain the exotic "other" so long as you choose to perceive it as such.

I have to agree with you; I'm sure there was a time when stories like Pocahontas, where a white man had a love affair with a native American, would have been seen the same way as gay princesses, but as perceptions changed few even raised an eyebrow to Disney's Pocahontas.

[Bicycle Bill]

Your argument comes down to "it is the exotic 'other' and so should not be portrayed in such films".

To which my response is, it will only remain the exotic "other" so long as you choose to perceive it as such.

I have to agree with you; I'm sure there was a time when stories like Pocahontas, where a white man had a love affair with a native American, would have been seen the same way as gay princesses, but as perceptions changed few even raised an eyebrow to Disney's Pocahontas.

The only thing that raised my eyebrows re: Pocahontas was the way Disney turned her into a "princess" for their own marketing purposes.  Back when I was in school and learned about Capt. John Smith and the Powhatan Indians she was merely described as "the chief's daughter".


(she was also depicted as being bare-breasted when she put her head down on Smith's to prevent his execution, but I digress.)

-"BB"-

[Big RR]

Well the chief is like a king, and the daughter of a king is a princess, so it's a logical assumption.

[TPFKA@W]

I went back and read The Snow Queen and realized that it has absolutely nothing in common with the story Frozen.

Since they appear to have absolutely no connection to each other I then grant them permission to make Elsa a lesbian if it makes them happy to do so.