Roots redux

[MajGenl.Meade]

Sure, but don't we have to hope that even the worst of us is redeemable and that information, truth, seeps in and has an effect? Look at me... I'm already practically a liberal.

[Lord Jim]

When I look at this map:



I see a lot more in the tropical zone than just jungle...

[Guinevere]

I'm a relentless optomist, but even I know when something is hopeless.

[Scooter]

I have never been too proud to shoot at fish in barrels, and the village idiot just provides too easy a target to pass up.

[liberty]

Why bother with him. He is always wrong, always nasty,

Name an individual that I insulted who has not repeatedly provoked me. I suspect I know Cooter’s Achilles heel, but I refrain form mentioning it because that is not the kind person I want to be.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Why bother with him. He is always wrong, always nasty,

Name an individual that I insulted who has not repeatedly provoked me. I suspect I know Cooter’s Achilles heel, but I refrain form mentioning it because that is not the kind person I want to be.

You are confusing "nasty" with "insult". Many things are nasty without once being insulting. I suspect I know some examples but I refrain from mentioning them.

The pattern, lib, is that you make an anecdotal statement of claimed fact; that statement is refuted with evidence; you then proceed to avoid responding to substance and embark on mystical mutterings about your beliefs, pictures of horses (as if a picture proves anything), Achilles' heel and the kind (of) person you want to be. Dull.

[liberty]

Lib. Let me remind you of your statement:

There were horses in tropical Africa two hundred years, give me break.

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That was my error; when I think of tropics I think of jungles of course that is not correct. Many parts of the tropics are deserts, grass lands and ocean.

But it wouldn‘t matter any mistake I made Cooty would jump on it like it was the NAZI invasion of Poland. Of course the soviet invasion was ok.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Well confessed, old boy. I'll grant you there may only be sea-horses in the ocean bits!

Scooter did pounce on your error but I'd say it was nothing like anyone invading Poland. You'd have to ask the Poles which invasion was best.

He may have been rather vehement - but that's him. You do seem to rub some folks up the wrong way with what looks for all intents and purposes like a thinly veiled racist remark. The feeling is that you'd not bother posting of an error in a movie if the people concerned were white - but given that it's Roots, you just have to mock "horses in Africa" as being one of your pet hates; black revisionism. And it isn't that at all.

You really need to work hard on eliminating your bête blanche.

[Lord Jim]

What Meade said...


ETA:

And the ability to admit when one is mistaken is a sign of good character...

I have to add though that I seriously doubt that Scooter would think that the Soviet invasion of Poland was "ok"...(Either the initial invasion after the country was divided in a secret attachment to the Hitler Stalin Pact, or the later invasion and subsequent 45 year occupation...)

[liberty]

Well confessed, old boy. I'll grant you there may only be sea-horses in the ocean bits!

Scooter did pounce on your error but I'd say it was nothing like anyone invading Poland. You'd have to ask the Poles which invasion was best.

He may have been rather vehement - but that's him. You do seem to rub some folks up the wrong way with what looks for all intents and purposes like a thinly veiled racist remark. The feeling is that you'd not bother posting of an error in a movie if the people concerned were white -.

Really, you need to talk to my wife; she has threaten kill me couple times. When we watch a period movie or TV program she will often say I don’t care if it accurate it is just entertainment. One of my biggies is the lever action in riffle in the pre-civil era.

[liberty]

You do seem to rub some folks up the wrong way with what looks for all intents and purposes like a thinly veiled racist remark.

you just have to mock "horses in Africa" as being one of your pet hates; black revisionism. And it isn't that at all.

Mr. Meade I think that the people here are somewhat better educated and perhaps more intelligent than on the average bulletin board, but they don’t appear to be very curious or observant. It would seem that by now they would know me.If I was racist I would tell you; I don’t do thinly veiled anything. If I believe something I say it outright, no beating around the bush, at least on the internet. And I don’t mind being wrong I have learned a lot from my mistake at least when poster a are willing to share rather than name call.

I will say this again: I don’t believe that there are superior or inferior races. However, there are races, inherited difference in groups of peoples, regardless what the anthropology society says . When I can see something, it can be measured and I can make predictions based on those observations: it exist.

However on a different subject: I feel I have to concede a point to you. I expressed doubt about horses even in the Sahel, the semi arid band of land across Africa north of the jungle and savanna. At the time I was fixated on the difficulty of crossing the Sahara; I just couldn’t see why the Arabs would go to the trouble and expense of transporting horses across one of the worlds most dangerous deserts. I over looked the possibility that horse could have been brought west from the Nile valley perhaps over hundreds of years. So I admit there were horses in the region.

I know that you provided a reference and at one time when an academic book was published it could be accepted as true, at least in the scientific age. But now because of afrocentrics anything about Africa has to be questioned.

[MajGenl.Meade]

But now because of afrocentrics anything about Africa has to be questioned

I'd say because of science everything has to be questioned or because of common sense or even because God. Your point is taken in the larger sense. Why then is it that you seem to become most agitated whenever the noted absence of color (black) is to the fore?