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that I like....

Oh, yeah. Critics have been giving me a hard time since Day One. Critics say I can't sing. I croak. Sound like a frog. Why don't critics say that same thing about Tom Waits? Critics say my voice is shot. That I have no voice. Why don't they say those things about Leonard Cohen? Why do I get special treatment? Critics say I can't carry a tune and I talk my way through a song. Really? I've never heard that said about Lou Reed. Why does he get to go scot-free?

....After that it was time for our national anthem. And a very popular soul-singing sister was chosen to sing. She sang every note -- that exists, and some that don't exist. Talk about mangling a melody. You take a one-syllable word and make it last for 15 minutes? She was doing vocal gymnastics like she was on a trapeze act. But to me it was not funny.

Well they don't say it about Len because it's not true.

MajGenl.Meade wrote:Well they don't say it about Len because it's not true.

I've been saying it about The Late Leonard Cohen for years...

The guy can't carry a tune in a bucket... William Hung sounds like Enrico Caruso by comparison...

Randy Newman and John Prine may not have great voices, but at least they can write decent lyrics...

Justin Bieber is a better song writer then Lenny....

MajGenl.Meade vs Lord Jim...

LJ's right. I shouldn't have said "it's not true". I should have said "No one of any consequence thinks it's true".

I'm afraid he's quite disarmed

Justin Bieber is a better song writer then Lenny....

That's hitting way too low Lord Jim.

I find Bieber's lyrics considerably less trite and insipid...

Jim is a beliber

Not a fan of Justin's...

But compared to Cohen...

A very low bar...

Dylan's been dead for ages, how come he's still giving quotes?

@ Gob!

Dylan's been dead for ages,

So has Cohen....

Lord Jim wrote:Not a fan of Justin's...

But compared to Cohen...

A very low bar...

Nice try but I've seen your tattoo

Gob wrote:Dylan's been dead for ages[/img]

Oh no! And they always go in threes...

I have to admit I gave up on Dylan when he started those gospel records; I'm sure some liked them, but I was not a fan.

And as for the OP, as a person who enjoys Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen (although not to the level some here do) I have heard the horrible voice comments for them many times, same for Lou Reed.

And Jim, Justin Bieber? You sure you're not a 12 year old girl with hearing problems? I can't put him up against any legitimate musician/composer and find him superior, even those whose writing I hate. His "music" isn't even good enough to hate.

I can't put him up against any legitimate musician/composer and find him superior,

Nor could I...

The key words there being "legitimate musician/composer"...

Touche!