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Trailer on the BBC and Facebook for the new "Victorian" Sherlock Holmes episode. By fuck it looks good!!

I'll put it up as a youtube link when it gets uploaded there....

https://www.facebook.com/Sherlock.BBCW/ ... 169302914/ (Viewable via facebook)

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 85376.html (The twitter link here works for me.)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... ck-trailer (UK only)
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“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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That could be worth a watch. It does look good.

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Cummerbatch could replace Brett as the definitive Holmes, if they were to remake the Cannon.
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Gob wrote:Cummerbatch could replace Brett as the definitive Holmes, if they were to remake the Cannon.
Ahem.

Meade, do you want this one, or should I do it? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Blast away!

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Oh bollocks .

"The canon."
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Gob wrote:Cummerbatch could replace Brett as the definitive Holmes, if they were to remake the Cannon.
Well, that trailer is a lot less campy than the original trailer:



But there's still the line about "wear the hat"... :?

If he wanted to replace Jeremy Brett as the definitive Holmes, does he have the chops to do it?

Perhaps, but he'd have to lose the camp and devote himself to the role...

Why would a guy making the money he's making in Hollywood do such a thing?

I think a much more logical move for Cumberbatch would be as the next James Bond:

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Sorry, no. Too geeky, too "cute," not enough edge. This is my vote for the next James Bond:

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Guinevere wrote:
Gob wrote:Cummerbatch could replace Brett as the definitive Holmes, if they were to remake the Cannon.
Ahem.

Meade, do you want this one, or should I do it? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Lord Jim wrote:
If he wanted to replace Jeremy Brett as the definitive Holmes, does he have the chops to do it?
Having seen him in other roles, as well as the more serious parts of the BBC "Sherlock" series, I'd say yes.
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I think he'd still be a much better James Bond...
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Too skinny. He could do both though, they aren't mutually exclusive. :)
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You know Jim, that original trailer scares me a bit; I have very little of a tolerance for camp in things that should (at least to me) be serious.

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Oh the news Sherlock has always had an element of "camp".

Mark Gatiss one of the driving forces of the writing and production, (who also plays Mycroft Holmes*) is a gay chap, and I'd be surprised if that were not his influence.

I found the interplay between, Watson and Mrs Hudson around Holmes and Watson "having lover's tiffs", highly amusing.





* A SKINNY "Mycroft Holmes," has to be more blasphemous than a Black Bond, surely?
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One of the things Brett got right, was the fact that Holmes never wore the "deer stalker" signature Holmes hat in the city...

In 39 episodes, I believe he wore it only about a half a dozen times, and always in the country...which is the only place where a gentleman of his stature would have worn such a hat in the late 1800s....

In the city, gentlemen wore top hats or bowlers...

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Good catch Jim. There's no mention of Holmes wearing a deerstalker in the canon, it comes from Padget's illustrations for the Strand magazines.
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Gob wrote:Good catch Jim. There's no mention of Holmes wearing a deerstalker in the canon, it comes from Padget's illustrations for the Strand magazines.
I think it was popularized in the public mind by Basil Rathbone:

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Gob wrote:


* A SKINNY "Mycroft Holmes," has to be more blasphemous than a Black Bond, surely?
Why is a black bond blasphemous?
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