Bottom gear?

Movies, books, music, and all the arts go here.
Give us your recommendations and reviews.
Post Reply
User avatar
Gob
Posts: 33646
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:40 am

Bottom gear?

Post by Gob »

Will the US version of the British TV motoring show Top Gear be as successful as the Emmy-winning original?

It is the latest in a long line of British shows to try crossing the Atlantic, some of which have become big hits. The success of American Idol and America's Got Talent have made judges Simon Cowell and Piers Morgan into household names.

But Top Gear has been reincarnated in the US without any of its British presenters - Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May - whose laddish antics and irreverent humour are such a big part of its appeal.

"For this to be Jeremy's love child and for us to get the opportunity to present the show is amazing," says Rutledge Wood, one of the trio of US presenters.

"It's like we're dating his sister."

When Wood and co-presenters Adam Ferrara and Tanner Foust got a letter from the sharp-tongued Clarkson - who has said American focus groups "just don't get" the programme - they were understandably nervous.

Luckily the letter was positive: "He watched it with Hammond and May, and said well done to all concerned - it was really nice," says Adam.
Helicopter race

After a handful of episodes, much discussion of the show centres on whether the US presenters have got what it takes. The British version of Top Gear, shown on BBC America, has a cult following in the US already, and some think the homegrown team is disappointing.

"I tried to watch it and sadly this show does not have the spark," writes one viewer on the official Top Gear website.

Another says: "This copy of the UK program is inferior and unworthy of the name Top Gear. Maybe Bottom Gear would be a better name!"

The Top Gear USA presenting team The US trio say they're not trying to emulate Clarkson and co.

But another section of the audience argues for the show, and its presenters, to be given time to find their feet.

Many of the stunts appear to have gone down well. In three of the first four episodes, cars were raced against a Cobra attack helicopter, downhill skiers and a high altitude parachutist.

The hosts have competed against each other - and against a blind man - at "drifting" (making a car skid and spin). They have also undertaken challenges in cars bought for less than $1,000 (£647).

Guest drivers, in a segment named Big Star, Small Car (instead of Star in a Reasonably Priced Car) have included retired astronaut Buzz Aldrin, the slowest round the test circuit, and skateboard star Tony Hawk.

And of course, there is the Stig - the anonymous, permanently helmeted racing driver - who races cars around the programme's own test circuit.

Creating a US version of Top Gear made sense because there was a gap in the market for a smart and fun show focused on the US car industry, says Dave McKillick, a senior vice-president at the History Channel, on which the show is being screened.

"It's about satisfying the obsession Americans have with cars," he says.

For his part, executive producer John Hesling says he chose the presenters because they were "representative of different car cultures in the United States".

Adam Ferrara is a comedian and actor from New York.

Tanner Foust, a professional stunt driver, is from the West coast and loves foreign cars.

Rutledge Wood is from the South and is obsessed with Nascar (stock car racing).

And unlike the British show, which visits America occasionally, Top Gear USA is on the ground all the time. The test circuit is in Irvine, California. The challenges have taken place across the country, on different terrains, from Alaska to North Carolina.

Another big difference is that the original Top Gear is wholly funded by the BBC, whereas Top Gear USA relies predominantly on advertising - from the motor industry.

It's one reason that the comedian and TV presenter Jay Leno turned down an offer to front an earlier pilot for the NBC channel.
The Top Gear phenomenon

* Started out on BBC Midlands in 1977
* Was axed in 2001, then relaunched in 2002.
* Previous hosts include Noel Edmonds and Angela Rippon
* The show has had the same theme tune throughout - "Jessica" by The Allman Brothers
* There are also Australian and Russian versions of the show
* UK version is watched in 170 countries by 350 million people
* First episode of US version watched by two million viewers
"My great fear in America is that, for instance, if Kia was our sponsor this week, we'd have to say the car was fantastic," he wrote in the Sunday Times.

That was also a concern felt by actor and racing driver Bruno Massel, who ended up fronting the earlier NBC pilot. "You didn't want to insult anybody or put a product down, there was a concern about alienating the companies," he said.

Mr Hesling denies that this issue is causing any punches to be pulled on a show that he insists will remain "honest and credible".

"Every show has to have good things and bad things," he says. One reason it ended up on the cable channel, History, he explains, was because executives there agreed this was an important part of the show's character.

Another reason a US version of the show was considered important, is the difference between British and American humour.

According to TV critic Brian Lowry from Variety magazine, humour is "probably the most culturally specific genre", and makes a show like Top Gear tougher to export to the US than reality TV or a talent show.

"Regional differences, the class system - they enable you to make jokes within jokes," he says.

Cliches about Skodas and Volvo drivers that you'll hear on the British Top Gear are replaced with references that mean more to American viewers.

"They'll say a Mini Cooper will only be driven by a middle-aged man with an over controlling wife, or that a BMW 3 series is only driven by rich teenage girls," he says.

The British version of Top Gear also enjoys the odd joke at America's expense - for example, by travelling across Alabama in vehicles sprayed with slogans designed to test the patience of the locals, such as "Country and Western is Rubbish" and "Man Love Rules OK". This, and Clarkson's general mockery of American cars, probably isn't the best way to maximise viewing figures in the US.

Rutledge Wood, meanwhile, has already succeeded in getting in some jabs at Brits. In episode two of Top Gear USA he tested two Aston Martins, neither of which could reach the fastest speed indicated on the speedometer. "Liars, all of these Brits are liars!" he joked.

That is one luxury of having two different versions of the show. Audiences on both sides of the Atlantic get the chance to feel superior.
Ok, can you Americans cock this show up as badly as you have so many other Brit ones? ;)

.

.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

@meric@nwom@n

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by @meric@nwom@n »

Like you all cocked up Law and Order?

User avatar
Gob
Posts: 33646
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:40 am

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by Gob »

Possibly, never seen either version, so I couldn't tell..
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

@meric@nwom@n

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by @meric@nwom@n »

You lot managed to take a show that was gritty and make it stuffy.

And why has no one managed to talk you lot out of those wigs?

oldr_n_wsr
Posts: 10838
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:59 am

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by oldr_n_wsr »

I treid watching Top Gear (the AMerican version). It has no redeeming qualities.

User avatar
Rick
Posts: 3875
Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:12 am
Location: Arkansas

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by Rick »

"My great fear in America is that, for instance, if Kia was our sponsor this week, we'd have to say the car was fantastic," he wrote in the Sunday Times.
We don't need top gear.

http://web.consumerreports.org/test/SEM ... 5291458940

We have Consumer Reports

I guess we'll just have to forgo the big long haired guys attempts at humor...
Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is

User avatar
dales
Posts: 10922
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:13 am
Location: SF Bay Area - NORTH California - USA

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by dales »

The British version of Top Gear also enjoys the odd joke at America's expense - for example, by travelling across Alabama in vehicles sprayed with slogans designed to test the patience of the locals, such as "Country and Western is Rubbish" and "Man Love Rules OK". This, and Clarkson's general mockery of American cars, probably isn't the best way to maximise viewing figures in the US.
My all time favorite episodes :lol:

Plus, they test a lot of cars which aren't available in the US.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


yrs,
rubato

User avatar
loCAtek
Posts: 8421
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:49 pm
Location: My San Ho'metown

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by loCAtek »

Nah. Watched the first episode: they gave it their best shot, but were trying way too hard and dismally lost spontaneity. Sure, Top Gear UK had to set up their bits, but things quickly went hay-wire, which was a large part of it's charm. What made that so entertaining in the original was the host's masterful ability to ad-lib great comedy on top of all that wackiness. That they knew what they were talking about, was just an added bonus.

What does the American version have to say about car chaos (If it it's not already been scripted)?
'Oh Shit!'

This is engaging dialogue?

Plus, there are so many cut-aways, from so many cameras that you start wondering how many takes did they have to film to get that shot? Again, betraying the lack of playfulness that Top Gear UK, abundantly had.

Needless to say- it's nothing without the Hamster!

rubato
Posts: 14245
Joined: Sun May 09, 2010 10:14 pm

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by rubato »

I watched one episode of the US-version of "Top Gear". It was ok. You can't expect it to match the spirit and genius of the original version* because a lot of the ideas are already worked out, but it stood on its own.

Having a driving contest where one of the contestants is a professional rally driver, sitting in the passenger seat and telling the driver, who is totally blind, what to do was inspired. He completely <nailed> the handbrake bootlegger turn into a parking spot. Much better than any of the drivers who could see. The reaction shots of his seeing-eye dog were pretty good too.

yrs,
rubato

* and the US never licensed really uselessly stupid vehicles like the "reliant robin" that produced one of the better crash-fests on the orig show.

User avatar
Daisy
Posts: 1578
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:15 am

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by Daisy »

loCAtek wrote:

Needless to say- it's nothing without the Hamster!

Could not agree more!!!

User avatar
Gob
Posts: 33646
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:40 am

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by Gob »

I wish I could see the attraction, my two go all gooey over him too.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

User avatar
loCAtek
Posts: 8421
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:49 pm
Location: My San Ho'metown

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by loCAtek »

Smart, chipper, with probably muscle tone to spare like a race jockey!

...I bet he composes poetry too!

User avatar
The Hen
Posts: 5941
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:56 am

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by The Hen »

Gob wrote:I wish I could see the attraction, my two go all gooey over him too.
No I do not.

I am a Captain Slow girl.

Get it right.
Bah!

Image

User avatar
Gob
Posts: 33646
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:40 am

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by Gob »

Ok, that's even more perverse...
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

User avatar
The Hen
Posts: 5941
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:56 am

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by The Hen »

I know. I have never been one to follow the crowd.
Bah!

Image

User avatar
loCAtek
Posts: 8421
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:49 pm
Location: My San Ho'metown

Re: Bottom gear?

Post by loCAtek »

Snuggled with the BF, in the hotel room, while watching a 'Top Gear USA' marathon, now that it's got good. (I mean, the show)


...I think they've finally found their stride. Their MO is to torture test autos across America, an' you gotta luv the carnage! No car, will be undone!
If their dialogue is scripted, rather than spontaneous; you gotta appreciate the delivery. These guys are good actors, and Adam Ferrara is my fav for his 'balls to wall' attitude. What you thought wasn't possible, nor prime-time televisable; he'll do to walk the edge.

Nice.

I've come envy them and their ability to trash cars without remorse!

Post Reply