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One of my first girlhood crushes.

Nice piece in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/ ... es-aged-88

That leaves one Highwayman.

Yes now Willie rides alone.

I thought I had posted but I must have pressed the wrong button. I wasn't ready for this one, just as I wasn't for Robbie Robertson. I think 'Me and Bobby Magee' will survive for centuries - if people are around - as a first-rate example of this period's music. Janis's version of course.

Edited to add: I read the Guardian piece BSG linked. He won 'country' awards and he was for a time based out of Nashville and we all know the Johnny Cash story - but I just never thought of him as a country singer. I suppose being a Highwayman with Willie Nelson and Cash and Waylon Jennings makes him so; and maybe it's my own prejudice -- I don't want to confess that I like country music.

ex-khobar Andy wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:23 am

maybe it's my own prejudice -- I don't want to confess that I like country music.

Oh come on:

Also:

"if it sounds country, man, that's what it is."

Long Run wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:58 pm

"if it sounds country, man, that's what it is."

Ain't that the truth. A good song is a good song and most can be reworked into almost any genre. A band I was in did a country version of Street Fighting Man and a punk version of I Walk The Line.

Sue . . . true. Trio and Trio2.
I like 'em both and so do you!

"Kris’s heroes included the prize fighter Muhammad Ali, the great poet William Blake, and the ‘Hillbilly Shakespeare,’ Hank Williams"
Kyle Young, CEO
Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum

I also love Leonard Cohen's "Tennessee Waltz" and who was "a hundred floors above" him in the Tower of Song?
Hank Williams. That's who!

All countries have country music. A lot of it is crap - but when it's good, it's damn good

MajGenl.Meade wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 01, 2024 1:04 am

Sue . . . true. Trio and Trio2.
I like 'em both and so do you!

Dolly Parton, Emmylou Harris and Linda Ronstadt are the greatest country supergroup of all time. I will die on this hill.

MajGenl.Meade wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 01, 2024 1:04 am

All countries have country music. A lot of it is crap - but when it's good, it's damn good

Most genres of music are mostly crap but every genre (even disco) has gems. That's what makes the mining fun.

Well, with Disco, I would not use the term "gems"; maybe semi-precious stones.

Big RR wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:36 am

Well, with Disco, I would not use the term "gems"; maybe semi-precious stones.

Say what you will, but between just the Bee Gees and Donna Summer you've probably got 10 really good songs that maintain cultural significance even today. Heck, disco even revived Diana Ross's career.

The Bee Gees were musically genius and I will box in the ring with anyone who disagrees. Put up your dukes!

BoSoxGal wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:02 pm

The Bee Gees were musically genius and I will box in the ring with anyone who disagrees. Put up your dukes!

What else would be said by the person who moved away and then back to Massachusetts.

The Bee Gees were musically genius and I will box in the ring with anyone who disagrees.

I agree BSG, so long as you are referring to the pre-disco Bee Gees--they had some great songs then. I still listen to those albums.

Sue--I imagine in any genre I could identify a dozen or so songs that I do not hate, but I do not think that makes the songs "culturally significant". I will agree that disco was commercially successful and greatly changed the club scenes, but I don't see anything enduring about it. I see disco as generic songs cranked out for money by corporate entities, generally written and performed by people having no great talent (and even concealing the talents of the few talented performers who recorded it). As I said, there may be some semi-precious stones, but no gems IMHO.

But then, I loved New Wave, and we all saw how long that lasted.

Long Run wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:41 am

BoSoxGal wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:02 pm

The Bee Gees were musically genius and I will box in the ring with anyone who disagrees. Put up your dukes!

What else would be said by the person who moved away and then back to Massachusetts.

Sue U wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:23 pm

Big RR wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:36 am

Well, with Disco, I would not use the term "gems"; maybe semi-precious stones.

Say what you will, but between just the Bee Gees and Donna Summer you've probably got 10 really good songs that maintain cultural significance even today. Heck, disco even revived Diana Ross's career.

I'll agree with you, Sue.   "MacArthur Park Suite" by Donna Summers, along with Vickie Sue Robinson's "Turn The Beat Around" are still on my playlist yet today.   Truly these, and several others I could name, are in fact pure 24K gold.

As for anything from the rap era, however?   Fool's gold, at best.   As I'm fond of saying, 'crap' is a four-letter word (the 'c' is silent), and it's allowed to exist only to prove to everyone that disco wasn't that bad after all.


-"BB"-

I've never been a fan of rap in that I don't listen to it all that much, but what I do like is that the best rap has lyrics which take on social issues in the way folk and rock used to. That gives it high marks for me--much popular music clearly avoids that.

Like this Cardi B mega hit?

Whores in this house
There's some whores in this house
There's some whores in this house
There's some whores in this house (hol' up)
I said certified freak, seven days a week
Wet ass pussy, make that pullout game weak, woo! (Ah)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, you fucking with some wet ass pussy
Bring a bucket and a mop for this wet ass pussy
Give me everything you got for this wet ass pussy
Beat it up, nigga, catch a charge
Extra large, and extra hard
Put this pussy right in yo' face
Swipe your nose like a credit card
Hop on top, I want a ride
I do a kegel while it's inside
Spit in my mouth, look at my eyes
This pussy is wet, come take a dive
Tie me up like I'm surprised
Let's role-play, I wear a disguise
I want you to park that big Mack truck right in this little garage
Make it cream, make me scream
Out in public, make a scene
I don't cook, I don't clean
But let me tell you, I got this ring (ayy, ayy)

And there's a lot more just like it . . .

Or Franchise which apparently took 9 (nine) people to come up with this brilliance: (excerpt)

Yeah
Yeah-yeah, yeah
Mmm-hmm, mmm-hmm
Yup, in my white tee, yeah
Call up Hype Williams for the hype, please, uh
They gon' wipe you, before you wipe me
Unboxing my checks, not my Nikes (yeah)
Cacti's, not no iced tea (ah), uh
Got 'em bamboozled like I'm Spike Lee (ah), uh
You need more than Google just to find me (ah), uh
I just call her bae to get her hyphy (ah, ooh)
Incredible, icki-icki, general
I just start the label just to sign me (woo, woo, woo), uh
Me and CHASE connected like we Siamese (ooh, ooh, woo)
We've been on the run, feel like a crime spree, talk to me nicely (yeah)
I seen his face, seen it
Yup, on his white tee (let's go), yeah
Yup, call the Sprite people (call 'em, hol' on, brrt)
Private flight to France, tryna sight-see (on private flights, brrat)
Popped 'em in his hands, he was typin' (da, da, da)
Caterpillar 'Rari, I fold it, lift it up (up)
I went on the stand, told the judge to pass my cup (ayy)
Ran up 20 million, told the Devil, "Keep the luck" (luck)
Keep that, keep that hoe (uh-uh)
R.I.P. Pop, keep the smoke (ayy, slatt)
Talk to me nicely (talk to me nicely)
Keep her on the chain, that ain't like me (that ain't like me)
Scotts with no strings, you can't tie me (Scotts with the, hol' on, bitch)
I'm higher than the plane, I'm where the Skypes be (doo, doo-doo, doo, hee)
Yep, in my slime tee (doo, doo-doo, hee)
Princey in his prime, yee (doo, doo, doo-doo, doo, hee)
Yellowbone too feisty, yee (doo, doo, doo-doo, doo, hee)
Clean him up, no napkin, yee (doo)
Yup, in my white tee (yeah), yeah
Call up Hype Williams for the hype, please (it's lit), uh
They gon' wipe you, before you wipe me (phew)
Unboxing my checks, not my Nikes (yeah)