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Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:01 pm
by Gob
A New York state strip club says it should not have to pay tax, claiming an exemption for the performing arts.
But the New York state tax department and an appeal court say $124,000 (80,000) owed by Nite Moves does not fall under an exemption for "live dramatic or musical arts performances".
The dispute is due before the state's highest court on Wednesday.
Tax officials say the club paid taxes on non-alcoholic drinks but must also pay for admission and "couch sales".
The exemption claimed by Nite Moves is usually applied to theatre performances or ballets.
The club is expected to ask a cultural anthropologist who has studied exotic dance - and visited the club - to testify on its behalf at the New York Court of Appeals.
An administrative law judge had previously ruled that "the fact that the dancers remove all or part of their costume... simply does not render such dance routines as something less than choreographed performances."
But the Tax Appeals Tribunal said the club had not adequately proved that it qualified for the exemption.
The tribunal said there was not enough proof that the dances were choreographed. An appeal court which upheld the tribunal's ruling added that club dancers did not need to have formal training.
It is expected that the high court will take about a month before issuing a decision.
Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:12 am
by rubato
I know none of you actually read anything but this is directly apropos:
http://books.google.com/books/about/End ... 4tvcdNtocC
Nobel prize winner and everything (1972). If you are ever sober long enough to read a whole book.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:40 am
by Sean
Good God man!
And then you whinge about people giving you grief...

Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:59 am
by Gob
He can't help it I'm afraid Sean...
Asperger syndrome in adults has some common characteristics such as:
• Lack of managing appropriate social conduct
• Anger management problems
• Controlling feelings such as depression, fear or anxiety
• Lack of empathy
• Inability to listen to others
• Inflexible thinking
• Repetitive routines provides feelings of security
• Stress when their routine suddenly changes
• Inability to think in abstract ways
• Specialised fields of interest
• Visual thinking
Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:00 am
by The Hen
I rarely drink, but I don't see how a book about Heinrich Boll trying to come to terms with his country's monstrous past in an investigation of an inexplicable crime and an even more absurd trial and when told to rack up mileage on a jeep to prepare it for inspection, a soldier drives it home--and burns it in the company of his complaisant father he's ANYTHING to do with a strip club trying to avoid a tax?
Perhaps you can expand your thoughts Rube?
Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:02 am
by loCAtek
Gob wrote:He can't help it I'm afraid Sean...
Asperger syndrome in adults
So unprofessional

Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:06 am
by The Hen
Just a relevant observation to someone who called him illiterate and drunk.
Both of which are in correct.
Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:07 am
by Jarlaxle
Gob wrote:A New York state strip club says it should not have to pay tax, claiming an exemption for the performing arts.
But the New York state tax department and an appeal court say $124,000 (80,000) owed by Nite Moves does not fall under an exemption for "live dramatic or musical arts performances".
The dispute is due before the state's highest court on Wednesday.
Tax officials say the club paid taxes on non-alcoholic drinks but must also pay for admission and "couch sales".
The exemption claimed by Nite Moves is usually applied to theatre performances or ballets.
The club is expected to ask a cultural anthropologist who has studied exotic dance - and visited the club - to testify on its behalf at the New York Court of Appeals.
An administrative law judge had previously ruled that "the fact that the dancers remove all or part of their costume... simply does not render such dance routines as something less than choreographed performances."
But the Tax Appeals Tribunal said the club had not adequately proved that it qualified for the exemption.
The tribunal said there was not enough proof that the dances were choreographed. An appeal court which upheld the tribunal's ruling added that club dancers did not need to have formal training.
It is expected that the high court will take about a month before issuing a decision.
There is a GLARING omission from this article!
The club's address.

Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:26 am
by Lord Jim
I've noticed that it's when rube really gets caught with his pants down, (as has happened to him in glaring public fashion several times here recently) that he responds by doubling down on asshole, and starts flailing about with insults in all directions....
I think this is supposed to be his way of punishing the board in general for forcing him to confront what a puffed up fraud he is.
It's very unpleasant for him psychologically when this is demonstrated, so he just starts lashing out randomly to vent his anger at this being done. It's a very arrested development type of thing.
Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:37 am
by Lord Jim
I liked this line in the first review at the link rube posted:
A one joke satire that quickly became tedious.
Now
that's "directly apropos".....

Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:48 am
by MajGenl.Meade
rubato wrote:I know none of you actually read anything but this is directly apropos:
. . . .If you are ever sober long enough to read a whole book.
yrs,
rubato
Gob, don't feel so special man! "None of you" is definitely plural and the unqualified "you" can only refer to all other participants on this board. So rubato is saying that no one who posts here reads books and all are drunks.
Now he could (in his own mind) be referring to "people living in Australia" or in the southern hemisphere. Even perhaps, the Welsh (in which case he does have a point). But language forces us not to speculate but to take his words in the most direct and simple sense without forcing explanation.
So everyone - we're all so drunk we can't read an entire book. Which is good news for me as I've just started re-reading the entire Bible and I'll do anything to avoid "Numbers"
Meade
Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:12 am
by loCAtek
The Hen wrote:Just a relevant observation to someone who called him illiterate and drunk.
Both of which are in correct.
Gob was both illiterate and drunk? Okay, that's a more honest and accurate first person observation, than the distant non-objective, unprofessional, judgement of a third person.
Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:36 am
by Gob
MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Gob, don't feel so special man! "None of you" is definitely plural and the unqualified "you" can only refer to all other participants on this board. So rubato is saying that no one who posts here reads books and all are drunks.
Very true, which I in no way indicated I thought I was. My observation on, and opinion of, retard's posting style being Aspergerish, which I addressed to Sean's point, was a gift to all.

Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:51 am
by The Hen
It is a gift.
Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:15 am
by loCAtek
...and in no way professional.

Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:47 am
by Sean
...says the person who diagnosed herself with PTSD...
Please don't start this up again lo...
Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:03 pm
by dales
For those interested:
The DSM V proposes the following (linking Asperger's under the broader contuim of Autism Spectrum Disorder).
My niece is a high-functioning ASD individual, I've tried to keep up with what's happening.
http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevisions/P ... spx?rid=94
BOLDFACE mine.
A 05 Autism Spectrum Disorder
Proposed Revision
Rationale
Severity
DSM-IV
Revised January 26, 2011
Autism Spectrum Disorder
Must meet criteria A, B, C, and D:
A. Persistent deficits in social communication and social interaction across contexts, not accounted for by general developmental delays, and manifest by all 3 of the following:
1. Deficits in social-emotional reciprocity; ranging from abnormal social approach and failure of normal back and forth conversation through reduced sharing of interests, emotions, and affect and response to total lack of initiation of social interaction,
2. Deficits in nonverbal communicative behaviors used for social interaction; ranging from poorly integrated- verbal and nonverbal communication, through abnormalities in eye contact and body-language, or deficits in understanding and use of nonverbal communication, to total lack of facial expression or gestures.
3. Deficits in developing and maintaining relationships, appropriate to developmental level (beyond those with caregivers); ranging from difficulties adjusting behavior to suit different social contexts through difficulties in sharing imaginative play and in making friends to an apparent absence of interest in people
B. Restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. Stereotyped or repetitive speech, motor movements, or use of objects; (such as simple motor stereotypies, echolalia, repetitive use of objects, or idiosyncratic phrases).
2. Excessive adherence to routines, ritualized patterns of verbal or nonverbal behavior, or excessive resistance to change; (such as motoric rituals, insistence on same route or food, repetitive questioning or extreme distress at small changes).
3. Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus; (such as strong attachment to or preoccupation with unusual objects, excessively circumscribed or perseverative interests).
4. Hyper-or hypo-reactivity to sensory input or unusual interest in sensory aspects of environment; (such as apparent indifference to pain/heat/cold, adverse response to specific sounds or textures, excessive smelling or touching of objects, fascination with lights or spinning objects).
C. Symptoms must be present in early childhood (but may not become fully manifest until social demands exceed limited capacities)
D. Symptoms together limit and impair everyday functioning.
Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:24 pm
by Lord Jim
Please don't start this up again lo...
Ditto...
In fact mega ditto...
We seem to be moving past that LoCa;
please, do not go back there again....






Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:41 am
by loCAtek
I put far more faith in Dales. The mental health field tries hard to overcome the social stigma that the mentally ill and/or psychologically injured are deficient or 'damaged'... those trying to create social stigma against individuals for personal gain/revenge, are unprofessional to say the least.
Re: Tax exemption stripped.
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:00 am
by Lord Jim