Plan B Forum

In the series earth’s children, the main character whose name is Ayla is evidently a genius; she discoveries fire starting with flint sparks, horse back riding and the travois. She also developed hunting from horse back and the domestication of wild animals. That in my opinion put her on the same level as Albert Einstein. If he should visit her world he would mostly likely be consider mentally handicap in that he would have none of the skills necessary for survival. LJ favorite fictional character Caption Kirk might be able to beam up from a planet’s surface, but he did not invent it and neither did his chief engineer. If Kirk should visit Ayla he would be hard pressed to fit in, but ayla would have little trouble adapting to Kirk world. After all anyone who can learn a foreign language in a matter of days would have no problem learning to read. And once she learned to read she would be able teach herself anything.

Different skills for different lives. I think the survivors/leaders/thinkers brought up in different circumstances would probably have made it in those times. Beaming on intelligent being from time period to time period would present them with circumstances they were not brought up with. Much like if I were to go to the swamps of La and tried to live off the land. I might have a chance, but those who grew up there do hav ehte advantage. And if they came up here they could buy all they wanted rather than have to kill their food, but could they get a job that pays enough for them to eat.

Lib - you forgot to mention the part where Ayla invented fellatio!

I thoought Fellatio was a character in Hamlet?

I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

I don't know man I think ol Al may have known a thing or two...

Econoline wrote:Lib - you forgot to mention the part where Ayla invented fellatio!

I believe that was a skill that Ayla learned from Jondalar; he learned as a teenage boy from his zelandonii woman.

keld feldspar wrote:I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

I don't know man I think ol Al may have known a thing or two...

Albert was a brilliant theoretical physicist, but when it came to understanding Communism he was no Ronald Reagan.

liberty wrote: Albert was a brilliant theoretical physicist, but when it came to understanding Communism he was no Ronald Reagan.

There's no doubting that!

Gob wrote:

liberty wrote: Albert was a brilliant theoretical physicist, but when it came to understanding Communism he was no Ronald Reagan.

There's no doubting that!

Sometimes a man just can’t measure up.

What does communism have to do with a fictional stone age character?

I'm vexed...

keld feldspar wrote:What does communism have to do with a fictional stone age character?

Regan wasn't a fictional stone age character, he really existed. Honest.

Gob wrote:

keld feldspar wrote:What does communism have to do with a fictional stone age character?

Regan wasn't a fictional stone age character, he really existed. Honest.

And so does Ayla, at least in the pages of a book.

Caption Kirk?

Yes. Ronnie Reagan really did exist.

Here's an actual rare photo of him taken while he was contemplating how to challenge Mikhail Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin wall....

liberty wrote:

Gob wrote:

keld feldspar wrote:What does communism have to do with a fictional stone age character?

Regan wasn't a fictional stone age character, he really existed. Honest.

And so does Ayla, at least in the pages of a book.

Alya sounds like a ripoff of Clan of the Cave Bear

and now I'm twice as vexed, next you'll tell me the setting is the Olduvai Gorge...

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Neither president Reagan nor Communism has anything to do with this post I was just trying to make the point Einstein’s intelligence was not broad based.

And, Ayla is Ayla of the clan of the cave bear in the first book, Ayla of no people in The Valley of The Horses and Ayla of the lion camp of the mamotai in The Mammoth Hunters, the third book..

As I've pointed out before, when it came to understanding the dynamics of of Geo-politics, Einstein was no Einstein....

I don't give two hoots in Hades about Al's geopolitical bent. Of the 3 mentioned he was the only one that actually lived.

Even though it is rumored that he would come to work in his PJs every now and again, he didn't just harness fire he helped Op etal put it on the pointy end of the stick...

I Love jean Aral’s writings but in order to do that I have to suspend judgment; some aspects of her story’s, mostly back ground, do not match logic. The most obvious is that Ayla has blond hair and blue eye which is a rare phenomenon in the human family. In a world where dark haired people were so numerous the blond genes would have swamped. Bond hair and blond hair and blue eyes would have been wiped out long before our time in the same that Cro-Magnon wiped out Neanderthal. We didn’t kill them all; we just out bred them. We had sex with our own women and theirs. It is estimated that we were ten time more productive in childbirth than they. And over thousands of years Neanderthal became less and less Neanderthal until the race disappeared.

Other thing in series are more believable the Cro-magnon people had things that we would recognize today such as colored leather, limited cloth, large dugout canoes with plank sides, soap and coal not to mention the stuff Ayla invented. This is not beyond the realm of possibility. Such an advance cultured could have exist and then be wiped out by some calamity.

Thanks, lib, for reminding me I've got to catch up and read the last book in the series (The Land of Painted Caves). Googling just now for information about it I found this review, which describes Ayla as a "prehistoric MacGyver"--a perfect description!

I still think that the first book was the best one, but I've kept following the series all along even though I've thought of some of the stories as "guilty pleasures"...and I do have to find out how Auel finished it up.