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This one looks like it's got some interesting twists....

The new "Companion" was first introduced in the first episode of the last of the Amy Pond series...

In that episode, she was portrayed as a humanoid Dalek who didn't know she was a Dalek...

And she died...

Then she re-appears in the Christmas show as a governess in Victorian England....

And she died...

And now she re-appears in contemporary times as a basically typical 21st century 20 something young woman...

And The Doctor is very perplexed and suspicious about this, and tries to sort it out by going back in time to the time her parents (in contemporary times) first met, and checking on various points in her life to make sure that she is who she seems to be...

Which all seems to be on the level, which only makes the question of how she could also be a humanoid Dalek and a woman living more than a 100 years ago, all the more vexing for him...("She's not possible..")

So resolving this puzzle is going to be one of the underlying themes of the new series, which I think adds an interesting twist....

Another recurring theme that's going to run is the presence, (begun first in the Christmas show, and again in the opening new season episode, which sort of tells the audience that this is going to be an ongoing theme) of "Dr. Simeon"...played by Richard E. Grant....

"Simon Marchmont" of Posh Nosh fame.... (I suspect they may have chosen the name "Simeon" as a play on "Simon"...in addition to the ape reference...because that's the sort of playful joke thing that the folks running this production would do....)

This seems like a true bit of inspired casting, because he makes an excellent , deliciously evil Über Villain....

A sort of Moriarty to The Doctor's Holmes...

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We haven't seen the last of him....

As for The Companion herself, played by Jenna-Louise Coleman...

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Lovely bit of crumpet obviously, but she also brings the kind of saucy feistiness and comedic chops to the role that really shows promise for good chemistry between her and Smith....

Which brings me to Matt Smith....

I didn't hold out a lot of hope for him when I first read about him taking over the role, (I thought he was too young...he was 22...and I was a big David Tennant fan) but I was pleasantly surprised by the way he was able to handle it right out of the gate....He showed more maturity than his age would indicate, and he understood Tennant's popularity, and has given an interpretation to the role very similar to Tennant's...

And over the past couple of years, he's gotten nothing but better....

And with this latest series he really seems to be coming into his own and starting to "own" the role....
I hope he plays the part for another five years...

(Another thing they've done is get him out of his tweed sports coat in favor of a longer sort of purple number, which I believe is an homage to an earlier Doctor, but off hand I can't recall which one)

Which brings me now to the writing, plot development and overall production...

If anything, it's gotten stronger....

You wouldn't think that a show as quirky and eclectic as this one, with a 50 year history could still be fresh, lively and engaging....

But it is...

It's clear that the folks who revived the show a few years ago (everyone involved...the writers, the producers, the directors, the folks responsible for the casting decisions, etc.) and created the high production value version that's on the air today have both great respect and affection for the historical integrity of the franchise, as well as enormous talent in their own right.
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I know there are only a couple of other Who fans on this board...






(But Daze, I was hoping to at least get your thoughts on the new season... 8-) )
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Lord Jim wrote:I know there are only a couple of other Who fans on this board...






(But Daze, I was hoping to at least get your thoughts on the new season... 8-) )

I like the new series, but what I don’t like is the Doctor murdering all the other Galifrayians which I don’t buy. In the entire universe there is not another time Lord some place. For example a Galifrayian ambassador that couldn’t make it home to die or a Galifrayian truck driver who interstellar transport broke down between galaxies. And by the way what is the story about the death Galifray anyway; I missed it.
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There's an episode early on in The Pond series where Amy throws herself at The Doctor...

And he pushes her away....

If you knew you were going to live for thousands of years...

But that anyone you knew, no matter how much you cared about them, wouldn't...

If you were a decent sort, (which The Doctor is..) the right thing to do would be to let them find happiness with someone else...(even if that "someone else" was as wet as Rory.... :P )
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Hi Jim. So far I am loving Matt Smith more than ever. He plays the part with a combination of childishness and the wisdom of a very ancient being.

Jenna is good, fascinating concept, the girl who keeps coming back who seems to have some kind of memory of her past and possibly future lives, albeit not showing in her current incarnation.

The fill ins of her back story in episode two still leaves a lot of questions hanging about her.

Looking forward to tonight's episode very much.

Also Rory wasn't wet Rory was a fucking hero, the boy who waited, 2000 years of living as a plastic centurion to wait for his Amy.

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the boy who waited, 2000 years of living as a plastic centurion to wait for his Amy.
Like he had a choice.... :)
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The episode where they had early forties Amy Pond (a fantastic make-up job; really well done; if you were unfamiliar with the actress, you'd mistake her for a MILF right off...not over-done at all...) dealing with mid -twenties Amy Pond, was one of the best episodes they made....
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The girl who waited. A lovely episode.

I especially liked the care droid she hacked into helping her with its drawn on face called Rory.

The ending was so poignant ... I wailed a lot at the end of that one.

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Lord Jim wrote:There's an episode early on in The Pond series where Amy throws herself at The Doctor...

And he pushes her away....

If you knew you were going to live for thousands of years...

But that anyone you knew, no matter how much you cared about them, wouldn't...

If you were a decent sort, (which The Doctor is..) the right thing to do would be to let them find happiness with someone else...(even if that "someone else" was as wet as Rory.... :P )
After the doctor rebuilt the old derelict tardys he found on Galifray and absconded with it, it broke down on earth. He was stranded on earth for about a hundred years. He married and had a daughter and granddaghter . Amy is his great great granddaughter.

What do you think?
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Lord Jim wrote:There's an episode early on in The Pond series where Amy throws herself at The Doctor...

And he pushes her away....

If you knew you were going to live for thousands of years...
If we are talking about ...

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Then the answer is; "I'd bone her silly until she got too long in the tooth.... " :lol: :ok
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liberty wrote:
Lord Jim wrote:There's an episode early on in The Pond series where Amy throws herself at The Doctor...

And he pushes her away....

If you knew you were going to live for thousands of years...

But that anyone you knew, no matter how much you cared about them, wouldn't...

If you were a decent sort, (which The Doctor is..) the right thing to do would be to let them find happiness with someone else...(even if that "someone else" was as wet as Rory.... :P )
After the doctor rebuilt the old derelict tardys he found on Galifray and absconded with it. it broke down on earth. He was stranded on earth for about a hundred years. He married and had a daughter and granddaughter . Amy is his great great granddaughter.

What do you think?
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The Doctor does not have a real name as he has been always known as the Doctor and its the Tv programme which is called Doctor Who.

From what we can make out from the series the Doctor's home planet is Gallifrey, and he stole a type 40 travel machine to escape his people, His Granddaughter Susan in his first creation made the name T.A.R.D.I.S, which stood for Time And Relative Dimension In Space

The Doctors race of people the Timelords were first seen in the Patrick Troughton in the 10 part adventure "The War Games" where he is forced to regenaerate and have been seen in many more episodes as either brief apperances like "Genesis of the Daleks" to full adventures like "the Deadly Assassin", Five Doctor;s" and "the Invasion of Time"the biggest story to date is "Trial of a Timelord" which spanned 14 episodes

The Timelords have two hearts and have also the ability to regenerate when the body becomes old or frail and needs to renew itself the Doctor said that he can only regenarte 12 times

The timelords are almost overseers of all other races and planets and it is their policiy never to interfere in other races and planets only the Doctor seems to do this.

Two of the most revered names in Timelord history are Omega and Rassilon, Omega invented the hand of Omega, which was a stellar manipulation device to power the use of time travel, they believed that omega perished in a supernova but infact survived in an world of anti-matter seen in the episode "The Three Doctors", Rassilon the founder of Time Lord society then took that singularity and placed it under the Timelords citidal.

Other Timelords to feature in Doctor Who were

Susan foreman who travelled with the first Doctor as his granddaughter and left in the "Dalek Invasion Earth" and stayed with David Campbell.

The Master, who is a totally evil and corrupt Timelord who unlike the Doctors TARDIS has a working chameleon circuit which means his TARDIS could change shape to blend in with its surrouondings, although descibed by the Doctor as "my favourite enemy" they were actually classmates at the academy in Gallifrey.

The Rani is a renegade Timelady described as an evil scientific genuis and also teamed up with the Master in the story "Mark of the Rani"

Romana or Romanadvoratrelundar as she is properly called was also a fellow Timelady sent by the White Guardian to assist the Doctor in his quest for the six segments to The Key to Time she also regnerates in the story Destiny of the Daleks which seemed strange that the Doctor has to take pot luck with his regenerations but Romana seemed to be able to change her body several times before settling on the body of Princess Astra seein in "The Armageddon Factor" although the Rani once remarked that she had the luxury of try ons meaning this is exclusive to Timeladies only.

The Doctors race was seemingly destroyed in The Time War the biggest war between the Daleks and The Timelords which totally destroys his home planet of Gallifrey and the Timelords it seems that Romana was President of the Timelords at the point of the destruction, it now seems according to the Face of Bo that he is not the only Timelord left alive
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I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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The Doctors race was seemingly destroyed in The Time War the biggest war between the Daleks and The Timelords which totally destroys his home planet of Gallifrey and the Timelords it seems that Romana was President of the Timelords at the point of the destruction, it now seems according to the Face of Bo that he is not the only Timelord left alive
They weren't actually destroyed. They are "time locked".

One of a couple of things that bugs me is the occasional confusion of canon in Who.

He clearly states early on in his ninth regeneration that he time locks the daleks and the timelords to end the great time war. this seems to be the case when they start to return when the master finds Rassilon' white-point star and realises it can be used to unlock the Time Lock in the second part of "Then End of Time". But then in "The Doctors Wife" (probably the best episode ever) when House tells the doctor "Fear me. I have killed hundreds of Time Lords" and the doctor responds "Fear me... I've killed them all", when actually he hasn't killed them just locked them away from the universe because they can't sort their shit out with the Daleks.

But I can forgive occasional canon confusion when the program is just so joyous as this is.

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I've just started watching it from "Rose" again. Urghhhh Ecclestone was great, I wish he'd hung around a series or two more.

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Daisy wrote:
The Doctors race was seemingly destroyed in The Time War the biggest war between the Daleks and The Timelords which totally destroys his home planet of Gallifrey and the Timelords it seems that Romana was President of the Timelords at the point of the destruction, it now seems according to the Face of Bo that he is not the only Timelord left alive
They weren't actually destroyed. They are "time locked".

One of a couple of things that bugs me is the occasional confusion of canon in Who.

He clearly states early on in his ninth regeneration that he time locks the daleks and the timelords to end the great time war. this seems to be the case when they start to return when the master finds Rassilon' white-point star and realises it can be used to unlock the Time Lock in the second part of "Then End of Time". But then in "The Doctors Wife" (probably the best episode ever) when House tells the doctor "Fear me. I have killed hundreds of Time Lords" and the doctor responds "Fear me... I've killed them all", when actually he hasn't killed them just locked themaway from the universe because they can't sort their shit out with the Daleks.

But I can forgive occasional canon confusion when the program is just so joyous as this is.
Thank you, that clears that up.

And don’t you feel sorry for the Daliks everyone treats like them like merciless killing machines, but no one considers their feels; they are living breathing and feeling creature too. They can’t help if Dabrocs engineered them to be the way they are, just unsightly blobs of flesh.
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.

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Urghhhh Ecclestone was great


I didn't care much for him...

Of the three Doctors in the new series, he's easily my least favorite...

His interpretation of the role was a little too brooding and blue collar for my taste....
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I liked that about him. He'd just finished the great time war, he was weary and angry when he regenerated into Nine, that was bound to affect what he became. His regenerations have always been influenced by environmental factors.

Also watching those old eps really show how cgi has moved on since 2005.

And the first appearances of a most of the Cardiff Torchwood team.

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Out of all the Doctors Chris Ecclestone is the only one I can bear to watch. Davis Tennant would've been okay if not for that ridiculous grimace which was his stock facial expression.
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The character I hope they find a way to bring into the new series is River Song....(Alex Kingston)

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I think her character arc was a great addition, and she brings a lot of energy to the show...
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Love River Song. She's such a bad ass!

When she went all Lara Croft on the Silence, brilliant scene, especially with the line "love a tomb, me"

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