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Gob wrote:Brazil´s Alberto Santos Dumont flew the first self powered aeroplane.To this day, Brazil has a grudge with the US for the claim that the Wright Brothers invented the airplane. Granted, they flew first, but their airplane was catapulted, basically, so in practical terms it was more like a hanglider. Brazil´s Alberto Santos Dumont was the first to fly an airplane that was propelled by its own engine, which is much more like the airplane as we know it now. Of course things aren´t, as history class makes us think, just suddenly invented by a solitary genius in a single masterstroke, but the result of years of different people developing ideas and adding elements till you get to the more finalized basic version. But Dumont deserves at least as much credit as the Wright Brothers.
Santos-Dumont, Alberto

Santos-Dumont, Alberto (älber'too sän'toozh-dümôN') [key], 1873–1932, Brazilian aeronaut. The son of a wealthy coffee grower, he was a flamboyant bon vivant and lived in France from 1891 to 1928. A pioneer in the development of aircraft, he was the first person to construct and fly (1898) a gasoline-powered airship, the predecessor of the modern blimp. He built several other lighter-than-air craft, winning in one a prize for a round-trip flight between Saint-Cloud and the Eiffel Tower (1901). At Neuilly, France, he established in 1903 the first airship base. In 1905 he turned to the construction of airplanes, and in the first successful public demonstration of one he flew a biplane some 200 ft (60 m) in Paris in 1906. His other achievements include building a successful small monoplane in 1909.


See his autobiography (tr. 1973); study by P. Hoffman (2003).


Read more: Alberto Santos-Dumont — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0 ... z1eO39XFYv
It would seem that the Wright Bros. had a three year jump on the Brazilian. (pun intended)

and...

blimp=/=airplane :nana

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he never publicly admitted to having flown to Ireland intentionally.
Has anyone?
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Correct Lindbergh was not the 1st to cross the Atlantic.

He was the 1st to fly nonstop from New York to Paris...
Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is

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They weren't American though were they? ;) ;) ;)

ETA: I'm talking about Alcock & Brown of course...
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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Correct Lindbergh was not the 1st to cross the Atlantic.

He was the 1st to fly nonstop from New York to Paris...
He was the first to fly solo across the Atlantic, which is the way I was taught it anyway....
The Spirit of St. Louis touches down at the Le Bourget Aerodrome, Paris, France. Local time: 10:22pm. Total flight time: 33 hours, 30 minutes, 29.8 seconds. Charles Lindbergh had not slept in 55 hours.
One guy flying over 33 hours by himself, sounds a hell of a lot more impressive to me than two dudes spelling each other for less than half that time....

And here's a PR tip for you:

If you want to get your name in the papers, (and the history books) better to fly from New York to Paris than from some God forsaken location in the upper reaches of Newfoundland to some back water farmer's field in Ireland...

:nana

ETA:

I'm not saying that what the Brit and the Scot did didn't take some guts, (especially considering the quality of the equipment they had to work with at the time) but it sure looks to me that in choosing the starting and ending points they did, they went out of their way to try and find the absolute shortest route they could while still technically claiming to have flown from North America to Europe....

Another noteworthy part of Lindbergh's feat is that it showed the potential viability of trans-Atlantic commercial flight, since people might actually want to fly from New York to Paris....

Who the hell wants to fly from Newfoundland to Ireland?
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Soccer syndrome.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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Indeed.
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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My those Grapes are sour
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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I'll take your word for it CP. ;)
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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I suppose the fact that he was dripping with handsomeness probably had something to do with it as well....


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Richard William Pearse (3 December 1877 – 29 July 1953), son of Cornish immigrants from St Columb near Newquay, a New Zealand farmer and inventor who performed pioneering experiments in aviation.

According to witness statements, Pearse flew and landed a powered heavier-than-air machine on 31 March 1903, some nine months before the Wright brothers flew their aircraft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Pearse
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Another guy with a lousy PR agent....
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Oh: (from Strops link)
According to witness statements, Pearse flew and landed a powered heavier-than-air machine on 31 March 1903, some nine months before the Wright brothers flew their aircraft.[1] The documentary evidence to support such a claim remains open to interpretation, and Pearse did not develop his aircraft to the same degree as the Wright brothers, who achieved sustained controlled flight.[2] Pearse himself was not a publicity-seeker and also occasionally made contradictory statements which for many years led some of the few who knew of his feats to offer 1904 as the date of his first flight.
Well, there's nothing "open to interpretation" about what Wilbur and Orville did, and when they did it....
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Note to all the nations of Earth:

































THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS THE BIRTHPLACE OF AVIATION

All the rest is mere speculation, conjecture, and unadulterated bullshyt! :fu

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Note to America...











We'll keep humouring you....
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Charles Lindbergh . . . dashing hero pilot who got away with infanticide.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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...and managed to blame some foreigner for it!
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bigskygal wrote:Charles Lindbergh . . . dashing hero pilot who got away with infanticide.
http://new.yankeemagazine.com/article/w ... bergh-baby

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