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Llansanffraid survey suggests villagers want 'T' back

Llansanffraid - without the T - is about eight miles from Welshpool

To T or not to T: that is the question in a dispute about a village name.

Llansanffraid-ym-Mechain was spelled Llansantffraid since the mid-1800s, until being dropped by Powys council, claiming it was correcting a mistake.

The community council wants it back, and more than 70 villagers agreed in a survey, with only three opposed.

But while it may seem a storm in "T" cup, it could carry on brewing, as one councillor says residents insist on Llansantffraid - and not Llansanffraid.

Powys council argued that when it made the change in 2008, it was correcting a mistake dating back to the mid-1800s, when a translation described Celtic Saint Brigit as a man, rather than a woman.

Powys council said the Welsh language spelling of Llansanffraid should take precedence.

But community council vice-chairman Doug Williams said that while Royal Mail had recently decided to drop the T as well, local people still wanted the longer version and pointed to the results of the survey.


Mr Williams said people resented Powys council's decision to change the name of the village without consulting villagers or local councillors.

He added: "The results of the survey were revealed at the last council meeting and showed that more than 70 people wanted the T back and three didn't want it.

"We can't understand Powys council's logic. Some street lights are out in the village and the road surface needs attention and it has spent money altering road signs that nobody wanted in the first place.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-11810964

Daisy wrote:Are they just going to keep demanding more letters until they have a place name longer than Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch?

Miles wrote:

Daisy wrote:Are they just going to keep demanding more letters until they have a place name longer than Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch?

Isn't there one to many "g's" in that?

Gob wrote:For the seventeenmillionth time (I know I'm dealing with Americans here, so I'm patient) the Welsh language has these vowels, a,e,i,o,u,w,ll, y.

oldr_n_wsr wrote:

Gob wrote:For the seventeenmillionth time (I know I'm dealing with Americans here, so I'm patient) the Welsh language has these vowels, a,e,i,o,u,w,ll, y.

I'll give you "y" but not "w" and "ll".

How do they play Wheel of Fortune in Welsh?