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Posted: **Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:19 am**

A Placer County man has been arrested after he broke into a shuttered bar, reopened the business and started selling drinks to unwitting customers, according to the Placer County Sheriff's department.

The Placer County Sheriff's department arrested 29-year-old Travis Kevie of Newcastle after his 4-day stint as the barkeep of the historic Valencia Club in Penryn which had been shutdown for more than a year.

Detective Jim Hudson became suspicious after reading about the Valencia Club's re-opening in an Auburn Journal newspaper article that featured a picture of Kevie and identified him as the club's new "owner/operator". Not only had Detective Hudson had previous run-ins with Kevie, he knew the Valencia Club's liquor license had been surrendered.

When Detective Hudson went to the bar to investigate, he found it open for business and customers at the bar. Kevie quickly went from behind the bar to behind bars.

Deputies describe Kevie as a transient. They say he broke into the Valencia Club and put an open sign in the window on July 16th. Kevie kicked off his business with a six-pack of beer he bought and resold at the club. He used his profits to buy more alcohol keeping the club open throughout the weekend serving about 30 customers a day, deputies say.

Kevie is being held in the Placer County Jail for burglary and selling alcohol without a license.

http://cbs13.com/local/penryn.bar.arrest.2.1817120.html

Just bye the bye, how would our American chums pronounce Penryn? (Ps. It's Welsh)

Posted: **Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:23 am**

As an Aussie chum, I would pronounce is Pen-rin.

And good on Kevie for being such a fly-by-night entrepreneur.

Posted: **Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:42 am**

Either of two ways -- pen - rin (two syllables) or pen-ern (one syllable).

Please do not forget, I live in the land where Woburn is Woo-burn, and Worchester is Wooster but Dorchester is Door-chest-er. So, anything goes!

Posted: **Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:49 am**

Mad.

There is a Launceston in both Australia and Cornwall. I would guestimate that ours was named by the convicts that settled here from Cornwall.

However, in Cornwall they pronounce theirs "Lanson" where as in Australia we pronounce ours "Lawn-cest-ton".

I reckon the Ozzies be the righter ones, as the convicts here would have brought with them the original pronunciation and the Brits can just be arseholes about words at times. I bet they reckon they invented the language.

Posted: **Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:55 am**

Similarly, there is some line of thought (advanced not only by residents, but by linguists) that the Boston accent is a remnant of the speech of the original 17th century settlers. Thus, also being closest to the original pronunciation from "back home" and thus also being "correct."

Of course, some of that is arrogance too. In Maryland, we also arrived in the 17th century and we don't have the godforsaken accent the natives up here have. We speak nice and proper like.

Posted: **Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:54 pm**

In Welsh it would be Pen-Rhin.

In Cornwall (help me out here SMF) Pen-riN.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:26 am**

Gob wrote:Just bye the bye, how would our American chums pronounce Penryn? (Ps. It's Welsh)

I have been there many times. The locals pronounce it Pen-rin. As do, as far as I can tell, all other North Californians.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:54 am**

Sober or sauced?

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:18 am**

Yep Gob your right

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:27 am**

Although I hated living in Cornwall, I do love the names of some of there towns and villages that all the "emmits" found so hard to pronounce.....

Pentewan
Mevagissey
Mousehole
Fowey

Australia has its fair share tho my brother couldn't get his tongue around Mudgeeraba, I always have problems with Molendinar.

Sorry for hijacking thread

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:53 pm**

One of the banes of being Welsh is that everyone asks you; "Can you say the name of that place, the really long one.."

(Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch)

Yes I can. No I do not want to. as it is stupid.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:19 pm**

You know deep down you really want to.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:52 am**

I've got the pronunciation of Newport down part thanks that that music clip RB linked too!

Gob can't pronounce Tuggeranong or Queanbeyan, which is rather sad when he can pronounce Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:43 am**

But can you say this:

Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg

Longest place name in the US, 6th longest in the world, a Nipmunk Indian name.

And no, I can't say it, but one of my friends is a native of the town where the lake is located, who *can* say it.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:45 am**

Mousehole was a weird one to get my head around.

But after reading the Mousehole Cat to the Hatch we now BOTH know it is pronounced Mao-zol.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:11 am**

"Mao zul" would be a bit closer I think.

Let's ask SMF, as she's "one of them."

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:37 pm**

Kevie kicked off his business with a six-pack of beer he bought and resold at the club. He used his profits to buy more alcohol keeping the club open throughout the weekend serving about 30 customers a day, deputies say.

Okay, now here's this guy...

A homeless drifter, down on his luck....

And instead of begging, or stealing, or going on the dole, he sees an opportunity, shows a little initiative, and goes into business for himself....

And they throw him in the klink....

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:42 pm**

Gob wrote:"Mao zul" would be a bit closer I think.

Let's ask SMF, as she's "one of them."

Yep Gob its a zu sound.

You need a smack for that comment....As a Cornishman/woman and they will say "She's not from round these parts get off my land"....Cornish and Welsh are a weird lot of Celts I was born in Truro, Cornwall and the world is a better place for it!!!! My parents are both Londoners...my mum North London and my Dad an Eastender. So the Cornish say I am not "proper" as my parents wern't born there.

Ps i don't habe a turnip muncher accent...my youngest brother does and I cringe everytime i speak to him...

PPS Before my other half get his two cents in I occasionally pronounce a word with a cornish twang to it....Hes just jealous cos Pudd thinks my pirate impression rocks and his sucks!

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:03 am**

SisterMaryFellatio wrote:! My parents are both Londoners...my mum North London and my Dad an Eastender. So the Cornish say I am not "proper" as my parents wern't born there.

Yeah godz, that's a capital crime in Cornwall isn't it? Being from London and living in Cornwall?

[cornish nationalist nutter] "They come down ere from Londun, with their fancy ways. they don't respec cornish culture and our ways. They buy up our 'omes, and leave us with no jobs, and our kids ave no chance of buying a place of their own in the country of their birth!!

Get orrfff moi laaand! Get the pitchforks Jethro, there's goin' to be a burning...."

[/cornish nationalist nutter]

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:19 am**

lol...yep its a crime i am surprised i wasn't taken to The Minnack and stoned with Pastys,saffron cake,scones and clotted cream!!

My grandparents fault they bought a guest house in Newquay..my mum met my dad etc etc

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