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EGR Vacuum Modulator

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Re: EGR Vacuum Modulator

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Postby BoSoxGal » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:20 am

The squealing/groaning and loss of steering only happen in the first 5 minutes after the car starts - and worse when it’s cold. Once the car is warm it steers great, I can still flip a bitch in a narrow street with ease and maneuver her very nimbly, the alignment is still great just tested it while tooling down the highway Friday. I have no idea if the belt has ever been changed - when I mentioned the squeal mechanic said something about adjusting it for me but that hasn't happened. I started backing into my spot at home so I can pull straight out the driveway instead of the multiple turn backing out I had to do to get pointed forward my old way of parking - so now I’m working on a new puddle of drips but it seems to be leaking less quickly that before. I check the level of the PS reservoir every week at least and never let it get too low.
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Postby RayThom » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:06 am

Have you tried using some belt dressing spray? It's not good for continual use but one application won't hurt and you'll instantly hear a difference if it's the belt. Of course, it won't help the hose leak which I'm sure is your biggest problem.
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Re: EGR Vacuum Modulator

Postby BoSoxGal » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:29 pm

Just picked Reva up from the highly rated tire shop I took her to for a repair estimate. They replaced steering rack & gear and a bad ball joint plus the PS belt for just under $1200. Also bought 4 lovely Kumho tires that were very high rated on Consumer Reports - mine failed the Lincoln test when I checked them last weekend and when I brought her for an estimate earlier this week they marked my tires RED for replace ASAP. They offered to sell me some Black Lion tires cheaper but the reviews I read indicate the savings are sucked up by bad rolling resistance and low fuel efficiency.

Anyway, she’s fantastic like a brand new car - except I have to bring her back to replace the sway bar which is rattling like crazy. That’s only @ $200 total so I’ll get it done ASAP and then she’s be purring like a kitten again. She steers and rides like a dream now!
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Postby Bicycle Bill » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:01 pm

Yes, I suppose I could agree with you ... but then we'd both be wrong, wouldn't we?
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Postby BoSoxGal » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:05 pm

She’s only got 192k on her RT - she’s barely broken in. ;)


Took her about another 40 miles after posting previously - my usually Friday date with my elderly client, down to New Bedford on the highway for dinner and home through the woods on our usual country roads meander. WOW are these new tires great! SO quiet! The last few years I figured she was just getting so old the door seals and engine compartment muffling must be breaking down, but it was just really loud tires all along. And they ride like being on a cloud. Oh yeah and it steers great with no squealing.

Now I just have to clean up the power steering fluid puddle in my cousin’s driveway.
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Postby Jarlaxle » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:33 pm

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Re: EGR Vacuum Modulator

Postby BoSoxGal » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:52 pm

Has anybody here ever replaced damaged seatbelts in a vehicle with used retractor units sourced from a salvage yard?
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Postby RayThom » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:10 pm

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Re: EGR Vacuum Modulator

Postby Crackpot » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:33 pm

Not a good idea seatbelts are designed to destroy themselves in the event of an accident and damage is not always readily apparent.
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Re: EGR Vacuum Modulator

Postby datsunaholic » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:29 am

As long as the vehicle from the salvage yard wasn't in an accident, the seat belts should be fine. But I think you need a portable kennel.
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Re: EGR Vacuum Modulator

Postby Crackpot » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:29 am

....or exposed to the elements and is absolutly from the same year and model....

Seat belts are a lot more complex than you think (especially on anything made after 1990). It boggles my mind that anyone would want to go cheap on something that could very well save a life (possibly their own)

Not to mention as things go they generally are not all that expensive (being a (THE) safety item they are not usually subject to the huge markups most other parts are) My BIL's GF just got the rear shoulder belt replaced in her '16(ish) Envoy for about $200 (installed)

Either buy the recommended replacement retractor (and have it installed by someone who knows what they're doing) or stop using the seat.
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Re: EGR Vacuum Modulator

Postby BoSoxGal » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:10 pm

The discount Toyota dealer where I get my parts wants $230 (discounted from $348 list price) per retractor set. So with shipping $500, then installation on top. That’s pretty crazy. I’m very concerned about safety, but can’t see why belts out of a dead RAV4 that wasn’t wrecked in an accident would be any less safe than the 20 year old ones that were in there? Mine have stopped springing back as fast as they used to, but otherwise seem functional - if I try to bend down while wearing them they lock up and restrain me, for instance.

The only part actually damaged are the belts - shredded by an anxious border collie who will in future be left inside a soft sided travel crate or be wearing a soft muzzle.

I also found this option while perusing forums about dogs eating seatbelts:


eta: As a humorous aside, she also pulled my registration from where it was clipped to the visor and ate it. I can just imagine how that would go over if told to an LEO, lol.
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Postby RayThom » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:50 pm

It's not a Rav4, but it is an older Toyota.

Cleaning the belts may be your easiest fix, however.
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Re: EGR Vacuum Modulator

Postby Crackpot » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:03 pm

What worries me so much is that you don’t know how the retractor has been treated in the meantime and concern that you are actually getting the right retractor. There are differences in retractors that can’t be seen and unless the sticker for the assembly # is still there it will be hard to trace. If the orientation of the ball sensor (the bane of your bending over) is not correct it could case that to either lock all the time or not at all. And the there’s the question of pyrotechnics modern seat belts (especially driver and passenger) belts tend to have them and if they haven’t been treated properly they may not work. (I suspect this is why your belts are so expensive)

Let’s step through your issues belt not retracting.

Wore out spring. Good news is this may be replaceable on its own. Definitely want new but should be a fraction of the cost.

Seat belt locking.

This is generally your problem and not the belt. That is to say it is not really an item affected by time as much as it is affected by the way you move and you have to train yourself to move in a fashion that triggers the manual motion sensor. I suppose it is possible that you have bee in enough close calls that you have permanently bent the loving post on the ball sensor making it lock more easily but usually not.

Damaged webbing

Anything outside of minor fraying replace the retractor.
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Re: EGR Vacuum Modulator

Postby Crackpot » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:11 pm

Note washing the webbing does almost nothing. What he did was over wind the spring which will short term make the retractor work better but will rapidly fatigue the spring and possibly cause the spring to break.

painful to watch
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Postby BoSoxGal » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:32 pm

Right so just to clarify, the dog chewed the belts so badly in many places they won’t run through the buckle. I don’t believe stitching them is wise because that must surely fundamentally alter the strength of the belts under strain of an impact - and from my prior life I do understand how critical belts are to saving lives in auto accidents, and I want mine to work.

The one place online that I linked to you send them the retractor and they insert brand new webbing up to original manufacturer’s code - and you can even pick a custom color. But I’m not all that comfortable removing and reinserting them by myself and doing it that way means taking it twice to someone else for that work. If not the dealer, I assume an auto body shop is qualified? Or no?

I’ve put a call in to the local dealer to see if it’s less expensive than I’m assuming from just looking up the part online. I found some posts on other boards people saying they got a good deal because it’s a safety issue and dealers don’t gouge - but that’s not really been my personal experience.

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Re: EGR Vacuum Modulator

Postby Crackpot » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:18 pm

I would trust most any certified mechanic (unless given reason not to). That link looks reasonable webbing is pretty much an industry standard. So not much to worry about there. Do check out your local dealer for their prices OEMe do not want stories of over charging of safety items floating around so pricing is pretty transparent at least.

The one thing that might happen is if you plan to send them out for new webbing is the auto shop/ dealer may demand the vehicle be towed/trailered from the shop if driving without seatbelts is illegal in your state
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