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Because Man was not meant to fly? Just as much evidence for that explanation as the reasons given by Canada, EU, China. . .

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ok, so you watched thirty seconds.......

you should give AvE a chance.....

he is smarter than Joe Guy.

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US has grounded Boeing 737-Max 8 airliners pending review and determination of the two crashes.  I applaud the decision; it would have been even better if Boeing themselves had said, "Park 'em for now.  It looks like there may be something out of the ordinary and we'll figure it out as soon as we can, but in the meantime let's not take any more chances, OK?"

Who knows?  Maybe there is something in them that is causing a problem — although I doubt that it's because "they are too complicated", as our POTUS and (now) chief aeronautical design genius has alleged.  Many people who are in the position to know suspect it is a multi-part problem brought on by 1) mounting of larger and more powerful engines on the wing; 2) relocation (due to their size and bulk) of the engines to a more forward position on the wings themselves; 3) a modification to the length of the nose wheel strut to maintain ground clearance for the physically larger and heavier engines on the aircraft— all of which contributed to a change in the handling of the airliner at low speeds such as during take-offs and landings, which could result in a fatal stall.  Some others are pointing at the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS), which was added to counter the problems created by 1, 2, and 3 above by means of computer control of certain flight surfaces — which of course led to Trump's pronouncement.

Although it wouldn't be the first time a poorly-thought-out design resulted in catastrophe. Just look at what happened because of ignorance of the effects of repeated pressurization and depressurization (exacerbated by the stress points at the corners of the square windows) of the deHavilland Comet 1s of the 1950s.
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There's a good summary of how we got to this point at https://www.vox.com/business-and-financ ... -explained

Vox has a generally liberal reputation but I think it's reasonably unbiased and accurate.

Having said that, there's a slightly alarming footnote to the article:
* Correction: An earlier version of this article misstated that it was the landing gear, rather than the engine, that had been relocated.
I have to assume that that was just a brain fart of the type we all (OK I'll speak for myself) I suffer from occasionally. A fairly loud and whiffy episode of neurologic flatulence, nonetheless.

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Thanks, Andy.
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the sensor...., maybe.

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There's a good summary of the effects of the Boeing disasters on Wichita (MG McAnick?) and the wider economy in the Guardian.

Of course much of the ire is directed at Mullenburg:
Other laid-off workers [there are 2900 of them] at Spirit [a Boeing supplier] also blamed Boeing and criticized the company’s former chief executive Dennis Muilenburg, who left with a $62m payout when he resigned shortly after the company announced 737 Max production would be suspended. A Boeing spokesperson noted Muilenburg received no severance or 2019 annual bonus, only the benefits he was contractually entitled to receive.

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