Why GM went bankrupt

[dgs49]

For reasons that I'd rather not go into, my wife is considering the purchase of a 2008 Hummer H3.

Since it is so old, it is not possible to purchase an extension of the original factory warranty (the car only has 30k miles on it), but I wanted to know whether GM has any other factory-warranty options. I want to have this information in hand before I go t othe dealership to talk with them about it, because I know the dealer will push the warranty that provides him with the best markup, not the warranty that provides me with the best coverage.

So I got on the GM-HUMMER website and sent them an inquiry, basically stating the same as above. I got an immediate response E-Mail from a "Hummer Specialist," giving me a generic Hummer inquiry phone number, and his personal phone number ("Dan"). The response indicated some passing familiarity with my question, but it was more generic than not.

I called "Dan's" number and. of course, got a recording. Called again. Another recording. My phone rang, and when I picked it up on the second ring, the caller had already hung up. "Dan."

I called the general inquiry phone number that was on Dan's email, and it was a DISH TV sales office! Dialed again, double-checked the number, and it was correct - Dish network.

So I sent Dan an email mentioning that I had called him several times with no success, and pointed out that the phone number in his email was incorrect.

And I got an email response from "Gail," with a corrected general phone number (but not her personal extension). Called the general number and when they ran through the options (no "Operator" option), there was nothing even remotely close to what I was calling about. So no good there.

I suppose that the people who are assigned to Hummer Hotline are not the rising starts within the organization, but this is funny.

[Crackpot]

You know GM and Hummer are no longer associated

[Joe Guy]

Hummers are no longer manufactured. GM stopped making them.

[oldr_n_wsr]

Hummers are no longer manufactured. GM stopped making them.

But you might get one from Candi. She's down on 42nd and 7th.
and it's probably cheaper than an H3.
No warranty though.

someone had to

[Crackpot]

GM sold Hummer in the bankruptcy (to a foreign company I forget which) I don't think they have plans for domestic sales

[dales]

Buy one of these bad boys that is ACTUALLY MADE FOR MILITARY USE, from the PRC.

[Crackpot]

The Rmor plating on those really eats up the gas mileage

[Joe Guy]

I heard GM was going to sell the Hummer to a company in Asia, maybe even China, but it never happened, so the Hummer is no longer a humdinger.

It has been humped to the trash bin of humhistory, if my humble memory serves me humbly.

[dgs49]

On the contrary...

GM still acknowledges Hummer, and acknowledges both its basic and extended warranty obligations to Hummer owners, as well as the obligation to continue providing Hummer parts for a minimum of ten more years.

Indeed, I did track down a GM warranty division website, and it tells me electronically that my "discounted" quotation on a jenn-you-wine GM fucking extended warranty is ready for me when I call them to get it.

On a more humorous note, at the end of the Salesman's song and dance last night (the test drive was extremely positive), he not only told me that there was no discount to be had on this marvelous vehicle, but that I was lucky to be getting it at the advertised price! He told me in fact that the Kelly Fucking Blue Book shows a retail value of $25,000 for this car (he had a real-live printout to prove it), so I would be getting off easy in paying ONLY $23,999 United States Dollars. He was not in the least bit impressed when I pointed out that the Kelley Fucking Blue Book is merely a compilation of average dealers' ASKING PRICES, and was of no more validity than a cow fart on a windy day. Nor when I pulled out MY printout from Edmunds-dot-com, showing average retail SELLING PRICES of about $21,500 for this particular vehicle, with comparable mileage in "outstanding" condition. Not surprisingly, a deal was not concluded last night.

I am tempted to make an offer on line to this dealership, just to piss off the salesman.

[oldr_n_wsr]

Find out what day that salesman is not there and give the deal to someone else.

[Jarlaxle]

Why do you want that dreadful turd of a vehicle?! It does NOTHING well.

[dgs49]

Jaraxle, the Hummer is exactly what it was designed to be: a spacious, comfortable, heavy-duty vehicle that will go virtually anywhere under any conditions. It is on the same order as the Land Rover and gets comparable fuel economy. It is one of the safest vehicles one can own and it is amazingly cheap to insure (presumably it does more damage to the other vehicle than is done to it). It sits high and provides great visibility, and has an amazing turning radius.

The only real drawback is poor fuel economy, but it's no worse than an F250 pickup, which most owners use for basic transportation anyway.

It is built so solidly that even the first ones sold to the general public more than ten years ago are still rolling along nicely, most of them having nary a spec of rust or corrosion showing anywhere.

And it is not bad to look at (especially in red).

There are millions of "stupid" vehicles running around on america's roadways. People drive trucks that they don't need, they have 4-wheel drive when they never experience snow or go off road; they have cars that will go 180 mph when they never exceed 75, and they have $80 Lexi when all they need is something to take them to the grocery store. Why are Hummer's judged as though they are the only pointless vehicle on the road. They are no more pointless than a Porsche 911 turbo, on which 70% of the speedometer will never be used.

[Crackpot]

You're talking about an H3 which does significantly less than a f250

[Scooter]

Indeed, I did track down a GM warranty division website, and it tells me electronically that my "discounted" quotation on a jenn-you-wine GM fucking extended warranty is ready for me when I call them to get it.

You should check out after market warranties online before you buy the vehicle. You might be able to save a substantial amount (just make sure you're dealing with a company that is financially stable and that is itself insured by someone else).

[dales]

Jaraxle, the Hummer is exactly what it was designed to be: a spacious, comfortable, heavy-duty vehicle that will go virtually anywhere under any conditions....

So buy a chev tahoe and be done with it already.

You do know that the hum-bummer is based on the tohoe?

[Crackpot]

No he's looking at an H3 which is based off the Envoy

[Jarlaxle]

Jaraxle, the Hummer is exactly what it was designed to be: a spacious, comfortable, heavy-duty vehicle that will go virtually anywhere under any conditions. It is on the same order as the Land Rover and gets comparable fuel economy. It is one of the safest vehicles one can own and it is amazingly cheap to insure (presumably it does more damage to the other vehicle than is done to it). It sits high and provides great visibility, and has an amazing turning radius.

Wow, what a pile. The H3 is a crowded, uncomfortable, ungainly porker that is marginal (at best) on anything more challenging than a dirt path. (A Jeep Wrangler will make it look absolutely stupid off-road.) Visibility is similar to looking out of a bunker, with high door sills and small windows...the optional backup camera adds a gigantic inside mirror, making matters worse.

The only real drawback is poor fuel economy, but it's no worse than an F250 pickup, which most owners use for basic transportation anyway.

It is built so solidly that even the first ones sold to the general public more than ten years ago are still rolling along nicely, most of them having nary a spec of rust or corrosion showing anywhere.

That's because most of what you see is plastic cladding...the rust is underneath!

The H3 is a lousy SUV based on one of the worst pickup trucks ever sold. (It's a tarted-up Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon.) It's a turd that does nothing well. It's slow (the 5-cylinder--the answer to a question nobody asked--is overwhelmed), noisy, thisrty, ill-handling, and crowded. If you want a cartoon truck, the FJ Cruiser is superior in all respects. If you want an off-roader, the Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon, a TRD 4Runner, or a Nissan XTerra are all so superior it's not even worth a comparison.

[Econoline]

The H3 is a lousy SUV based on one of the worst pickup trucks ever sold. (It's a tarted-up Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon.) It's a turd that does nothing well. It's slow (the 5-cylinder--the answer to a question nobody asked--is overwhelmed), noisy, thisrty, ill-handling, and crowded. If you want a cartoon truck, the FJ Cruiser is superior in all respects. If you want an off-roader, the Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon, a TRD 4Runner, or a Nissan XTerra are all so superior it's not even worth a comparison.

And if you want a fancy-schmancy, expensive "luxury" SUV that actually CAN "go virtually anywhere under any conditions" get a Range Rover.

[dales]

Hummer H3 getting pulled out of trouble by a Jeep.

[Econoline]

I loved the part of that video where the girl giggled, "It's Hummer recovery season, lovin' it..."