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A little Neanderthal may lurk in all of us

By Faye Flam

Inquirer Staff Writer

We are not the species we thought we were.

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Turns out we tangled with our neighboring branches, just as other animals have.

The evidence that Neanderthals mixed into human ancestry comes from a comparison between modern human DNA and DNA extracted from 38,000-year-old Neanderthal bones, part of an ongoing "Neanderthal Genome Project."

The researchers said they were expecting a confirmation of the prevailing story of humanity as a young species that arose in Africa around 100,000 years ago and started expanding outward, replacing various archaic "species" of humans in Europe, Asia and the Middle East.

The most famous of the purported losers was the Neanderthal, whose ancestors split from ours about 400,000 years ago. Over the intervening time, evolution shaped them to be stockier, heavier and stronger than modern humans. The word Neanderthal has become synonymous with brutishness and stupidity, and yet their brains were slightly larger than ours.

Then, about 50,000 to 80,000 years ago, members of the group known as anatomically modern humans began to move out of Africa and into Neanderthal territory. Neanderthals appeared to have gone extinct around 24,000 years ago.

This latest genetic analysis indicates they didn't die out completely but mixed with our ancestors, thereby leaving all non-Africans a bit of Neanderthal DNA.

The researchers who carried out the analysis shied away from talking about what this meant for us as a species. "It's hard to answer whether we're a different species or a sub-species," said geneticist Richard Green of the University of California, Santa Cruz. "It gets to the point really where we have to ask ourselves whether these labels are useful."

To Alan Templeton, a Washington University biologist, this latest DNA analysis confirms what he has long argued - that Neanderthals are part of our species and, more generally, that we need to re-think the idea of species as it applies to us.

For years, Templeton has been comparing the DNA of people from around the world, looking for patterns that reveal aspects of our evolution. From that, he said, evidence was already mounting against the "total replacement" story of our past. But it was hard for many to let go.

"The idea of modern humans coming out and conquering the whole world seemed to have a very strong emotional appeal to people," he said.

Beyond that, he said, our messy past with Neanderthals shakes up our old-fashioned notions about purity. "The idea that there are pure groups or pure races is total nonsense," he said, but it is still ingrained in our culture. The reality is that living things tend to cross when given the chance.

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What science is telling us is we're not the pinnacle of evolution but a snapshot in time, a chapter in an ongoing story. Washington University's Templeton said this Neanderthal mixing was just one twist in a complicated past, full of separations and reunions, divergence and cross-breeding.

Why, then, did Neanderthals contribute just a little to our genetic heritage?

It may be that there were fewer of them and their genes were swamped by this bigger group of humans who left Africa later, Princeton's Mann said.

Neanderthals hung on for thousands of years in some frigid and harsh parts of Eurasia. "They really were an amazingly adaptive and successful group," he said. "It's a form of racism that we have played down their abilities to enhance our own."

Send this to all your racist friends, I love the bit that says the only 'pure humans' are those from Africa!

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So, who is going to copy DBA on this?
A sufficiently copious dose of bombast drenched in verbose writing is lethal to the truth.

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There was always that question; if modern man arose in Africa and migrated to the rest of the world, when/why did his skin color lighten? The answer now appears it's to due to Neanderthal colder-climate adapted genes.

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Our skin colors would have been changing anyway without the Neanderthal mixing in. We very likely started off with light skin as we began evolving from apes, and as our hair fell off and our diets changed, our skin darkened to help regulate Vitamin D production.

Basically, Melanin acts as a control for Vitamin D production in the body. The darker your skin, the less Vitamin D is produced. This is fine because living near the equator means that you're getting a lot of sun and you don't need Vitamin D to be produced all that much due to increased exposure. But as we moved north, our exposure to sunlight decreased, and so our skin color lightened in response to keep Vitamin D production at an acceptable level.

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On a related note...
The rate of men dying from the deadliest form of skin cancer has doubled over the past three decades.

Figures from Cancer Research UK show a steep increase in deaths from malignant melanoma, especially in elderly men.

In the late 1970s fewer than 400 (1.5 per 100,000) men died from melanoma but that figure has now risen to over 1,100 (3.1 per 100,000).

Yet the disease is preventable, the charity said.

The death rates for women have also risen, from 1.5 to 2.2 per 100,000.

The figures also reveal that although more women are diagnosed in the first place, more men die from the disease.

In men aged over 65 deaths have risen from 4.5 per 100,000 to 15.2 per 100,000 over the past 30 years.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/10172892.stm
Avoid the sun, get Vit D deficiency, don't avoid the sun, get skin cancer...

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We're all cavemen!

...except for the Aborigines;

Hair Shows Aborigine Ancestors Were First Out of Africa



By Laura Matthews | September 24, 2011 12:28 PM EDT

A 100-year-old Aborigine lock of hair is leading scientists to rewrite the history of human migration out of Africa as we know it.

Researchers thought that all modern humans came from a single migration wave from Africa into Europe, Asia and Australia. However, new research done on an Australian Aborigine lock of hair shows that early humans colonized Asia in two waves before settling in Europe and Asia.

Scientists believe that Aborigines' forebears probably made their way across the world 24,000 years before another wave led to Europe's and Asia's settlement.

Researchers analyzed hair donated by an Aborigine man from Western Australia to a British anthropologist over a century ago. Their analysis showed that Aborigines' ancestors separated from the first populations in Africa between 62,000 and 75,000 years ago, then eventually settled in Australia. Europe and Asia were first settled as many as 38,000 years ago, the researchers said.

"Aboriginal Australians descend from the first human explorers," said Professor Eske Willerslev from the University of Copenhagen, who led the study that was published in the journal Science. "While the ancestors of Europeans and Asians were sitting somewhere in Africa or the Middle East, yet to explore their world further, the ancestors of Aboriginal Australians spread rapidly; the first modern humans traversing unknown territory in Asia and finally crossing the sea into Australia. It was a truly amazing journey that must have demanded exceptional survival skills and bravery."

Learn more about the study in the video provided by the University of Copenhagen below.

http://video.ku.dk/1026869.ihtml?token= ... id=3322927

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