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Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:09 pm
by Lord Jim
If this goes as planned, (and we've had a number of Mars missions that haven't) it will be one of the most significant non-manned achievements in the history of the space program:
Are we alone? NASA's Mars rover aims to find out

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Are we alone? Or was there life on another planet? NASA's $2.5 billion dream machine, the Mars Science Laboratory, aims to take the first steps toward finding out when it nears Mars's surface on Monday.

The planet is Earth's closest neighbor, and scientists have found signs of water there, hinting that some form of life was once likely, even though Mars is now a dry place with a thin atmosphere, extreme winters and dust storms.

NASA said it will find out if its Mars Science Laboratory and rover, Curiosity -- designed to hunt for soil-based signatures of life and send back data to prepare for a future human mission -- landed safely at 1:31 am Eastern time (0531 GMT) on Monday.

That will be about 14 minutes after the touchdown actually happens due to the time it takes for spacecraft signals to travel from Mars to Earth.

As of late Saturday, the laboratory was approximately 261,000 miles (420,039 kilometers) from Mars, closing in at around 8,000 miles per hour (13,000 kilometers per hour).

"Curiosity remains in good health with all systems operating as expected," NASA said in a statement.

The US space agency added that catalyst bed heaters were in the process of being turned on to prepare the eight Mars Lander Engines that are part of MSL's descent propulsion system.

The nuclear-powered rover is the biggest ever built for planetary exploration, weighing in at one ton, about the size of a small car, and carries a complex chemistry kit to zap rocks, drill soil and test for radiation.

The landing is a daring and unprecedented maneuver that involves penetrating the atmosphere at a speed of 13,200 miles per hour (21,240 kilometers per hour), slowing down with the help of a supersonic parachute and dropping down gently with tethers from a rocket-powered sky crane.

"This is the most challenging landing we have ever attempted," said Doug McCuistion, director of NASA's Mars Exploration Program.

Two NASA orbiters will be crossing overhead as the lander approaches the surface, and a third orbiter operated by the European Space Agency will also send data back to Earth.

The Mars Science Laboratory began its journey to the Red Planet more than eight months ago when it launched from the Florida coast in late November 2011.

"It gets scarier every day," said McCuistion, noting that only about 40 percent of past attempts by global space agencies to send spacecraft to Mars have succeeded.

"Can we do this? Yeah, I think we can do this. I am confident the team has done an amazing job. We have the A-plus team on this. They have done everything possible to ensure success," he said.

"But that risk still exists. It is going to be tough."

NASA has detailed the final minutes of the complex landing in an Internet video called "Seven Minutes of Terror." A live broadcast from mission control in Pasadena, California will be on http://www.nasa.gov beginning at 0330 GMT Monday.

The landing site for the rover is a flat area known as Gale Crater, which lies near a mountain that scientists hope the rover will be able to climb in the search for sediment layers that could be up to a billion years old.

One potential factor of concern, the weather, appears to be cooperating after a nearby dust storm spotted days ago dissipated, deputy project scientist Ashwin Vasavada told reporters.

"Mars is playing nice and we are going to get good conditions for Sunday," he said.

Vasavada said the dust storm near the landing site has evolved into a "fairly harmless cloud of dust" that probably will not reach Gale Crater by the time of the landing.

He said it was not "expected to affect entry, descent and landing in any meaningful way."

If the landing goes according to plan, NASA hopes to have some low-resolution black and white images taken from cameras on the rear of the rover shortly afterwards.

More images will follow in the coming days. Then, engineers on Earth will spend most of August remotely checking out systems on the vehicle, according to deputy program manager Richard Cook.

The rover is carrying a chemistry kit that contains a rock-zapping laser, 17 cameras, a drill, radiation detectors, water sensors, and tools to scoop soil and check for carbon-based compounds that are the building blocks for life.

Curiosity may start to roll for its first drive in September, with its first scoop samples expected late in the month and its first drilling attempt in October or November.

If the landing fails, McCuistion vowed that NASA would continue its efforts to explore Mars.

"We will pick ourselves up and dust ourselves off. We will look at this and do something again. We will do it again, this will not be the end," he said.

"Human spirit gets driven by these kinds of challenges and these are the kinds of challenges that force us, drive us to explore.

"To explore our surroundings, to understand what is out there, and obviously look at 'Are we alone?'"
http://news.yahoo.com/alone-nasas-mars- ... 38257.html

I like this picture; it makes it look like it's got a face and it's wearing a hat: 8-)

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Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:13 pm
by Sean
Number Five is alive!

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:29 pm
by Lord Jim
I figure that laser zapper was also installed so that Curiosity could defend itself if it encounters those Martians that destroyed the 60% of the Mars missions that didn't make it....

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:17 pm
by Joe Guy
If Curiosity finds a Martian cat, will it kill it?

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:16 pm
by Lord Jim
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Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:59 pm
by Rick
At one ton here on Earth even though slightly less on Mars I would say yes...

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:17 pm
by dales
What a stupendious waste of money.

(Sorry, Jim I don't get the warm fuzzies over NASA's latest forays into space exploration)

We have enough problems here on Earth.

eta:

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Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:12 pm
by Lord Jim
Gee whiz Dale, if they'd had that attitude back during The Fourth Dynasty, the pyramids would never have been built.... 8-)

If we are going to use the fact that we have not solved all of our problems as an excuse, then we would never achieve anything great as a species, because we will always have "problems"....

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:57 pm
by dales
It's called "reality".....Jim.

Read any newpapaers lately?

We were flush with $$$$$$$$$$$ during the Apollo pgm so NASA was above reproach (spending-wise) and we were kicking ass and taking names as far as space exploration is concerned. BEAT THE GODLESS RUSKIES TO THE MOON is quite an acheivement (thanks Werener von Braun) and other assorted NAZI scientists.

Fast-forward 45 years and the USA is flat-assed busted.

Why piss away money on dubious erectile-dysfunction pgms that reap next to zero benefits?

Perhasp our dear rubato can explaing to a scientific illiterate (like me) these benefits?

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:04 am
by Econoline
Here ya go, dales:

(If 5 minutes and 20 seconds is too long for your attention span, here's a shorter version of the same rant which Neil deGrasse Tyson gave during an appearance on The Daily Show.)

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:22 am
by Lord Jim
Many excellent points...

Very, very well said.... :ok :clap:

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:07 am
by dales
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Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:33 am
by Grim Reaper
Curiosity has safely landed on Mars. Pretty intense last couple seconds there.

And they're already starting to receive images from the rover.

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:16 pm
by dales
:mrgreen:

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:31 pm
by Grim Reaper
Here is one of the first images sent back.

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:10 pm
by dales
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2 Nov. 1976

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:33 pm
by Grim Reaper
The Viking landers couldn't move. Curiosity contains more, and more powerful, tools for exploring Mars. We'll be getting more impressive pictures later on when the other cameras are up and running.

And for something else impressive, here is a picture of Curiosity as it enters the Martian atmosphere as taken by another of the satellites in orbit.

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:26 pm
by dales
Good point, Grim.

Looking at a 36 year old photo - The Martians might have constructed cities since that time.

:lol:

eta: What NASA is doing is phantismical - can the US afford it?

Can monies be spent elsewhere?

I'm not trying to be an argumentative crank, I just question this endevor at this time.

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:05 pm
by Sean
Grim Reaper wrote:Here is one of the first images sent back.
Meh... Everyone's holiday snaps look the same.

Re: Good Luck Curiosity

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:32 pm
by Lord Jim
I'm not trying to be an argumentative crank
Well you're doing a damn good impersonation of one.... :mrgreen: