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Snake bite, no pain...

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:48 am
by Gob
Black mamba venom is 'better painkiller' than morphine

By James Gallagher

A painkiller as powerful as morphine, but without most of the side-effects, has been found in the deadly venom of the black mamba, say French scientists.
The predator, which uses neurotoxins to paralyse and kill small animals, is one of the fastest and most dangerous snakes in Africa.

However, tests on mice, reported in the journal Nature, showed its venom also contained a potent painkiller.

They admit to being completely baffled about why the mamba would produce it.

The researchers looked at venom from 50 species before they found the black mamba's pain-killing proteins - called mambalgins.

Dr Eric Lingueglia, from the Institute of Molecular and Cellular Pharmacology near Nice, told the BBC: "When it was tested in mice, the analgesia was as strong as morphine, but you don't have most of the side-effects."

Morphine acts on the opioid pathway in the brain. It can cut pain, but it is also addictive and causes headaches, difficulty thinking, vomiting and muscle twitching. The researchers say mambalgins tackle pain through a completely different route, which should produce few side-effects.

He said the way pain worked was very similar in mice and people, so he hoped to develop painkillers that could be used in the clinic. Tests on human cells in the laboratory have also showed the mambalgins have similar chemical effects in people.

But he added: "It is the very first stage, of course, and it is difficult to tell if it will be a painkiller in humans or not. A lot more work still needs to be done in animals."

Dr Nicholas Casewell, an expert in snake venom at the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine, has recently highlighted the potential of venom as a drug source.

Commenting on this study he said: "It's very exciting, it's a really great example of drugs from venom, we're talking about an entirely new class of analgesics."

Dr Lingueglia said it was "really surprising" that black mamba venom would contain such a powerful painkiller.

Dr Casewell agreed that it was "really, really odd". He suggested the analgesic effect may work in combination "with other toxins that prevent the prey from getting away" or may just affect different animals, such as birds, differently to mice.

Re: Snake bite, no pain...

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:44 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
As far as the Black mamba is concerned, why worry about side effects. Stun and kill the prey, don't have to worry about panic responses as the prey is now in an inebriated state.

Re: Snake bite, no pain...

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:20 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Black mambas have ethics. It's those green ones you need to watch out for (I do)

Meade

Re: Snake bite, no pain...

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:41 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
Never heard of a Green Mamba. :shrug

Re: Snake bite, no pain...

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:40 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Image

Western type is found up around Senegal etc (where my granddaughter is right now....). It's smaller than the black but bigger than the Eastern type which is found in KwaZulu Natal and the east coast (and Zanzibar and some other places)

Meade

ed: spelled KwaZulu incorrectly

Re: Snake bite, no pain...

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:42 pm
by The Hen
Also watch out for Mamba, No 5.

Bloody catchy.


Re: Snake bite, no pain...

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:43 am
by The Hen
OMG.

Watch out for the Royal Welsh Platoon and their Mango Number 5. It is potentially more lethal than my previous clip.

(No man should ever wear a mankini.)


Re: Snake bite, no pain...

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:30 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
Now that is a good looking snake Meade, I want one. ;)

(No man should ever wear a mankini.)
I agree.
:o