"Mass Casualty" High School Shooting In Florida...

Econoline · Post by **Econoline** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:56 pm

For those of you who want to play along at home...

Thoughts & Prayers: The Game

Bicycle Bill · Post by **Bicycle Bill** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:03 pm

Scooter wrote:Lord Dampnut sanctimoniously says, "It is not enough to simply take actions that make us feel like we are making a difference." Would that include the "thoughts and prayers" that are offered by every Republican whore bought and paid for by the NRA, but then are never followed up by anything at all?

-"BB"-

rubato · Post by **rubato** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:15 pm

Sue U wrote:The problem is not °mental health" or "background checks" or "magazine capacity" or any other of the peripheral factors that seem to be the only issues legislators can bring themselves to mention. The fundamental problem is too many guns too readily accessible to too many people. You have to start by radically reducing the sheer number of guns, and then restrict their ownership and use. But the cowards in government won't even get close.

spot on.

yrs,
rubato

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:48 pm

I found an old bag of thoughts and prayers in my storage room. I just loaded them onto the truck and I hope they arrive safely and swiftly at the White House. Without them we are surely doomed as a nation.

Take that, you sickos!

Burning Petard · Post by **Burning Petard** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:47 pm

CBS tv national news just broadcast an interview with several students from that school. On girl said (as I remember it) "I heard people talking on the news just an hour and a half after the shooting about gun control. This is way to early. . . . We can't have people using this for their political agenda."

I could not disagree more. Stopping this now should be on every political agenda. Doing, acting, NOW, not kicking it down the road. Doing something that will make a real difference, not cosmetics and show-boating, the way it has happened after every notorious shooting, starting clear back with Kennedy in Dallas.

snailgate

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:43 am

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:04 am

I thought I had seen and heard it all, and I should probably avoid the comment sections of articles if I don't want to give myself a stroke, but I have just come across the third person who, despite Cruz's known actual ideological leanings, is claiming that he was "inspired by ISIS, because he is using their tactics."

So I guess that is going to be the new normal now, that every mass shooting in the U.S. is going to be pinned on ISIS. Jesus H. Fucking Christ, I almost wish I had been in that school so I wouldn't have to be listening to the torrents of idiocy being spewed from the right since it happened.

BoSoxGal · Post by **BoSoxGal** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:41 am

I believe we are lost - there will never be anymore gun control. I listened today as lots of angry pundits and victims vented on TV about how WE MUST DO SOMETHING! But I give it a week before it’s out of the news except for a few hour long retrospectives on the 20/20 type shows, and a month before it’s buried under Trump/Russia.

Jesus H. Christ, we stopped talking about 58 dead, 500 injured in Vegas within weeks! How the fuck does that not stay in the news for months?!

The spineless politicians are in the pocket of the gun industry by way of the NRA - motherfuckers! - and we all know we are hostage to their gutlessness.

One more reason to be glad I have no children or grandchildren.

dales · Post by **dales** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:45 am

One more reason I'm glad that I have children and grandchildren.

That are being raised right.

BoSoxGal · Post by **BoSoxGal** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:48 am

How does that protect them from being murdered? Doh!

Also there are many mass killers whose parents raised them right, by all accounts. Mental illness and psychopathy does occur quite frequently even in fairly functional families.

Gob · Post by **Gob** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:27 am

Plenty of teaching places, nursing jobs, social and care working, and other vital service employment is available in countries where "getting shot" isn't part of the job requirements. Maybe when civilised Americans realise they are hopelessly outnumbered and start leaving;then the ridiculous clots of the NRA will come to a natural self extinction.

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:40 pm

Econoline wrote:For those of you who want to play along at home...

Thoughts & Prayers: The Game

Okay...

After playing this game 16 times, I'm beginning to get the distinct impression that it's rigged...

Burning Petard · Post by **Burning Petard** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:26 pm

There is at least some objective research into school shootings.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/opin ... pe=article

This could provide a starting place for policy change that is rational and data based.

snailgate

rubato · Post by **rubato** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:46 pm

Good articles both the one you link to and the second one whose link is embedded within it.

yrs,
rubato

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:18 am

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:39 am

A simple drawing but, man, that bought a tear to my eye.

ex-khobar Andy · Post by **ex-khobar Andy** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:07 am

Me too, Ray.

Bicycle Bill · Post by **Bicycle Bill** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:55 am

The most thought-provoking part is that there are so many people — TOO GODDAMNED MANY PEOPLE! — waiting there 'wanting to meet him'.

FOR CHRISSAKES, WOULD SOMEBODY — ANYBODY — FUCKING DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS MADNESS?

-"BB"-

Sue U · Post by **Sue U** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:55 pm

Bicycle Bill wrote:FOR CHRISSAKES, WOULD SOMEBODY — ANYBODY — FUCKING DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS MADNESS?

-"BB"-

Yeah, about that . . . It's actually kinda pretty much exactly YOUR job to do that, not "somebody anybody." Call your legislators, tell them you want real and meaningful gun control, NOW, and if that means repealing the Second Amendment to do it, you're good with that. In fact you'd welcome it. Tell them this is the single most important thing they need to do NOW, and if they don't act, you will personally make sure everyone in their district knows that they find dead children to be the perfectly acceptable price of appeasing the gun lobby by doing nothing.

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