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WELLFLEET, Mass. —
A 26-year-old man from Revere died after being attacked by a shark in the waters off Cape Cod on Saturday afternoon, Massachusetts State Police said.

The man succumbed to his injuries following the attack in the waters about 300 yards south of Newcomb Hollow Beach in Wellfleet just after noon Saturday.

First responders performed CPR on the victim on the beach after the bite before he was transported to Cape Cod Hospital in Hyannis, where he was pronounced dead.

State police and the Cape Cod District Attorney's office are handling the investigation.

Police said the victim's family has been notified. His name was not immediately released.

The Truro Police Department said all ocean side beaches in Truro will be closed to swimming until further notice.

"Today is just keeping everyone out of water," Wellfleet Police Lt. Michael Hurley said. "There'll be a determination later about what the town wants to do with the beaches going forward."

This was the second shark attack on Cape Cod this summer and the first fatal shark attack in Massachusetts since 1936.

Video from the scene immediately after the attack showed dozens of people working to help the victim, carrying him from the beach to the parking lot where an ambulance was waiting.

Sky 5 spotted a number of sharks in the water off the beach about two hours after the attack was first reported. Seals were also spotted swimming very close to shore.

The Wellfleet beach is popular with surfers, and with sunny skies and warm temperatures Saturday it was busy, even though the summer season was over and lifeguards were no longer on watch.

Joe Booth, a local fisherman and surfer, said he was on shore when he saw the man and his friend boogie boarding when the attack happened.

He said he saw the man aggressively kick something behind him and a flicker of a tail from the water. He realized what was happening when the friend came ashore dragging his injured friend.

"I was that guy on the beach screaming, 'Shark, shark!" Booth said. "It was like right out of that movie Jaws. This has turned into Amity Island real quick out here."

Booth said others on the beach attempted to make a tourniquet while others frantically called 911.

Hayley Williamson, a Cape Cod resident and former lifeguard who was on the beach at the time, was in disbelief after the man was rushed in an ambulance.

"We've been surfing all morning right here and they were just further down," she said of the two boogie boarders. "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time."

A Cape Cod politician said officials who did not more aggressive action against sharks bore some responsibility for the fatal attack. Barnstable County Commissioner Ron Beaty said he had warned something like this could happen.

"It is my personal belief that the responsibility for this horrible shark attack rests squarely upon the shoulders of the aforementioned officials for their utter lack of attention and inaction regarding the growing shark problem on Cape Cod of the last few years," he said.

The Atlantic White Shark Conservancy, which has been conducting research into the sharks in our area for years, offered its "sincere condolences to the family of the victim, and all who witnessed or were affected by [Saturday’s] tragic incident."

"We remain committed to facilitating the study of shark behavior in an effort to provide information to the public and to safety officials who manage our beaches," the conservancy said.

Newcomb Hollow Beach is approximately 4 1/2 miles south of Long Nook Beach, where a 61-year-old neurologist from Scarsdale, New York, was attacked by a shark on Aug. 15.
There are photos and videos in this story, so here is the link if you want to check them out: https://www.wcvb.com/article/wellfleet- ... h/23239475

I'll also take this opportunity to add an addendum to an exchange on another thread, wherein I was strongly in favor of the Cape having more to offer than Guin's stomping grounds nearer to Boston; definitely a vote in favor of Nantasket and other north and south shore beaches is that so far, there haven't been any major shark incidents there. The area of greatest concentration of shark activity has been the Outer Cape, where the greatest concentration of seal populations reside.

In this thread I posit the question - what do we do, if anything, about the sharks?

This is going to now become a really big conversation on and off Cape - it already has been all over the internet boards since the attack a few weeks ago of the NY professor who was bitten and severely injured off Truro, and with a fatality now, it will only get more strident.

I'm definitely pro-shark. I remember being terrified after Jaws was released in '75, and for the first time in my young life - spent largely on Cape with my grandparents, at their waterfront South Chatham beach house within clear sight of Monomoy Island NWR - I refused to go into the water. My grandfather finally addressed this phobia by dragging me into the water in his arms, standing chest deep and holding me tightly and soothing me with his words and caresses while I cried and trembled, until all the fear was exhausted out of me. I'm not sure if this was psychologically appropriate or not, but it did work for me (I think it might be a crude version of exposure therapy?).

Of course at the time shark populations in the area were nearly nonexistent, because seal populations had been decimated - but even still, chest high waters are considered relatively safe and I was never encouraged to go out deep when swimming and playing in the surf.

It's still the best advice of shark biologists that people stay in waist high waters, away from anyone fishing and any seals swimming in the area. Swim and play in groups rather than alone, and if you do see sharks, get out of the water.

The man who was attacked off Truro has acknowledged that he broke these rules - he swam alone, he went out deep into 10'+ waters. He did follow the advice he'd read or heard and he physically assaulted the shark AFTER it attacked him - he punched the shark's gills, which are one of the most vulnerable parts of shark anatomy (other areas are snout and eyes). This is why he believes the shark released its hold of him and allowed him to escape to safety.

I'm not sure we will ever know the truth of this most recent attack, although it sounds like it might be possible that the young man attacked the shark BEFORE it attacked him? Maybe he thought he could scare the shark away when he realized it was very close to him as he was boogie boarding? If so, this is in direct contradiction to the advice given swimmers by shark biologists:
The relative risk of a shark attack is very small, but risks should always be minimized whenever possible in any activity. The chances of having an interaction with a shark can be reduced if one heeds the following advice:

*Always stay in groups since sharks are more likely to attack a solitary individual.
*Do not wander too far from shore — this isolates an individual and additionally places one far away from assistance.
*Avoid being in the water during darkness or twilight hours when sharks are most active and have a competitive sensory advantage.
*Do not enter the water if bleeding from an open wound, and enter with caution if menstruating — a shark’s olfactory ability is acute.
*Wearing shiny jewelry is discouraged because the reflected light resembles the sheen of fish scales.
*Avoid waters with known effluents or sewage and those being used by sport or commercial fisherman, especially if there are signs of bait fishes or feeding activity. Diving seabirds are good indicators of such action.
*Sightings of porpoises do not indicate the absence of sharks — both often eat the same food items.
*Use extra caution when waters are murky and avoid uneven tanning and bright colored clothing — sharks see contrast particularly well.
*Refrain from excess splashing and do not allow pets in the water because of their erratic movements.
*Exercise caution when occupying the area between sandbars or near steep dropoffs — these are favorite hangouts for sharks.
*Do not enter the water if sharks are known to be present and evacuate the water if sharks are seen while there. And, of course, do not harass a shark if you see one!
*If you are attacked by a shark, a proactive response is advised. Hitting a shark on the nose, ideally with an inanimate object, usually results in the shark temporarily curtailing its attack. Try to get out of the water at this time. If this is not possible, repeated blows to the snout may offer a temporary reprieve, but the result is likely to become increasingly less effective. If a shark actually bites, we suggest clawing at its eyes and gill openings, two sensitive areas. You should not act passively if under attack as sharks respect size and power.
This sign is posted adjacent to the beach where this fatal attack occurred today:

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Some are saying the town is responsible for not doing more about the sharks - but I would argue the problem isn't the sharks, it's the people.

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Well first off don't make lawyer jokes, sharks HATE lawyer jokes and will fly into an instant rage. understandably.


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if you do see sharks, get out of the water.
Pretty tough to argue with that...
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They need to play a continuous loop of this from some beach mounted loudspeakers.

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Further reporting seems to suggest that the human provoked this deadly attack:
Massachusetts man Arthur Medici, 26, died after a shark attack Saturday. He was boogie boarding with a friend at Newcomb Hollow Beach in Wellfleet around 12pm when he was fatally attacked. Witnesses say he tried to kick the shark away then was viciously attacked. Witness Joe Booth said 'it was like right out of that movie Jaws'. The victim was rushed to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. Medici was born in Brazil but moved to the US to go to college, two years ago.
Very sad, as quite possibly the attack was entirely avoidable.

I was always quite nervous about hiking in Montana, there having been a widely reported grizzly attack not long after I arrived and a few more in the years I lived out there. I carried bear spray and followed all the advice of bear biologists about how to avoid an encounter; I never had to test it, but I’m fairly sure I wouldn’t have resorted to punching a grizzly in the face had I come upon one in close proximity.

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I debated about whether to blow one of my MoviePass credits on seeing that, but the reviews were so lousy I decided against it - even though I love a good shark movie!

Gob, you lived in Oz - do you have thoughts about proactive measures to manage shark/human encounters? I understand some places there have used netting and other measures to limit encounters - but that the netting often results in the deaths of other sea creatures.

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Lord Jim wrote:
if you do see sharks, get out of the water.
Pretty tough to argue with that...
Well I'll argue with it, having spent, over the course of three years, maybe 800 hours under the Red Sea where shark sightings are common. It helps to have 100 foot plus visibility whereas if you are swimming off Cape Cod, even in the best of conditions, I would bet that 10 foot visibility would be a rarity. We didn't have great whites or tiger sharks which appear to be responsible for the majority of fatal attacks worldwide. If we did I never saw one. The first time you see a shark in the distance it can be disconcerting but if you carry a camera, after a while you want to get up close and (not too) personal. Most sharks, in my experience, are not anxious to have their pictures taken, and somewhere in a box in my basement I have numerous slides of the rapidly disappearing tail end of a six foot white tip reef shark (the most common species round our way). My best shark shot ever was a (probably) 8 foot bull shark coming up at me through the gloom. I was taking a student diver on his first deep dive (100 foot plus) and it was also his first close encounter with any kind of shark. Unfortunately I entered the slide in a competition and never got it back - in those days of Ektachrome making copies was possible only by rephotographing the slide which involved kit I did not have access to.

I did see a shark once in the English Channel (more specifically The Solent, which is that bit between the mainland of GB and the Isle of Wight) which crept me out. I couldn't tell you the species but it was bigger than me and visibility was probably six feet. A friend of mine had a project tracking the disposition of sewage sludge in the UK coastal waters. Not many people know this, but tomato seeds pass through the human digestive system and through a standard sewage treatment process unscathed and end up in the sludge. In those days (and I think still) much of European sewage sludge was disposed of at sea (in the US a lot of it is used for soil amendment - ask me how I know) and Ian's innovative idea for tracking sludge was to count tomato seeds on the bottom. So armed with a 10 cm quadrat (basically four bits of PVC pipe arranged into a square) Ian recruited his friends to go down to the bottom, toss the quadrat onto the sand (or more usually mud) and count tomato seeds. As you can imagine. being 90 feet down in the cold English Channel trying to count tomato seeds is at the less glamorous end of scuba diving. And even if visibility is six feet at the start of the dive, by the time you are hovering off the bottom and churning up the benthos with your fins it can rapidly become six inches. Not the best time to become aware of a shark who seems to have taken an interest in your presence but in those pre-Jaws days (1971) we simply did not consider the possibility.

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BoSoxGal wrote:I debated about whether to blow one of my MoviePass credits on seeing that, but the reviews were so lousy I decided against it - even though I love a good shark movie!
I hope you watched "The Shallows". Had its problems but overall a good watch. A woman hero displaying ingenuity, bravery and gumption made a pleasant change. Not a Tom Cruise in sight.
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so the guy saw the shark, and paddled out and punched it in the nose, thus provoking it?

what a bastard....

but seriously, adult white sharks eat aquatic mammals regularly.

we are aquatic mammals these days.

we don t have much fat, relatively so we aren t worth much energy to them....

but if we are right there, all by our lonesome..., well, a snack s a snack, right?

we stop killng seals and sharks, there will be more of both.., and the sharks follow the seals...., if there is a seal beach, there will be sharks.

the answer is to eat more white shark, I think.

then when the seals get too thick, we can switch eating seal for a few years.

it s a delicious cycle....

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right now, WE are a too thick at the beach, so the sharks are following THEIR delicious cycle....
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...and I really despise fin fishing, as well as trophy hunting.

shark is delicious, eat the whole damned thing!

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