Native American Day

rubato · Post by **rubato** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:04 pm

I think Ray was being ironic and it was just misunderstood. Some people are predisposed to taking offense and don't know there is a conversational 'reset' button called "oh, sorry, I misunderstood".

yrs,
rubato

BoSoxGal · Post by **BoSoxGal** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:54 am

There was a point in this thread where that could occur, and then RT went out of his way to mock me and be an asshole, and I’m done with it. The fact that he makes a point to target me further by essentially accusing me of being somehow unstable rather than just taking responsibility for his part in the misunderstanding at the root of this thread - heaven forbid HE might have flaws! - just underscores his petty thuggery approach to communicating with me, probably because I have girl cooties, and I find it wearisome and not worth my time. My life gets shorter every day, you know.

There is no rule here upon joining that says participants are required to read the voices they dislike; so I’m not sure what the problem is? I pitch in to keep the place afloat, I should be able to use it how I like.

Strange how certain little boys here get their boxers in a twist when they are called out for being that, and express such petulance over being denied an audience - or more appropriately, a target. Seems that’s their problem, not mine.

Meade, I’m terribly sorry to offend you but I like the word fuck. I really fucking like it, fuckity fuck fuck fuck! I also like cunt and twat and motherfucker and wanker and shitstain and all manner of other dirty words. It’s 2018 and this kind of peppery language is no longer a horrifying thing most places outside of church - heck, in the legal profession I heard it all the time from the majority of coworkers and colleagues and clients and it’s just not something I can get all Puritan about anymore. I don’t think I’m the only one here who uses salty language and I certainly hope you aren’t more offended because I have girl cooties because that’s just not ok in 2018 - I’m allowed to swear like a boy sailor if I want to.

Burning Petard · Post by **Burning Petard** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:17 am

Salty language can be a barrier to communication, or an elegant art form improving the subtlety of communication. I refrain from ruling anything outside acceptability on this forum.

But each is free to make our settings include or exclude any poster as one personally decides. That is one of the possibilities on this forum which I really like.

But back to the main theme, I refer to the book 'The Person You Mean To Be' by Dolly Chugh, only because it is at hand as I sit at my desk right now. There are many other books out there with more scholarly,, or philosophically sophisticated language with a similar message: typical do-gooders get it wrong.
There is much injustice and cruelty toward groups of humans in this world. It is frequently t desire to feel good about oneself that drives efforts by persons or groups with power to 'fix' things for those will less power. Much better to step aside and let the less powerful tell the powerful what needs to be changed.

About 'Native Americans' I point you toward the art of Marty Two Bulls Senior. Bye-the-bye, this weekend 'Native Americans' in this area are holding a pow-wow on Iron Hill, near the Maryland/Delaware state line.

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RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:42 am

BoSoxGal wrote:There was a point in this thread where that could occur, and then RT went out of his way to mock me and be an asshole, and I’m done with it. The fact that he makes a point to target me further by essentially accusing me of being somehow unstable rather than just taking responsibility for his part in the misunderstanding at the root of this thread - heaven forbid HE might have flaws! - just underscores his petty thuggery approach to communicating with me, probably because I have girl cooties, and I find it wearisome and not worth my time. My life gets shorter every day, you know.

There is no rule here upon joining that says participants are required to read the voices they dislike; so I’m not sure what the problem is? I pitch in to keep the place afloat, I should be able to use it how I like.

Strange how certain little boys here get their boxers in a twist when they are called out for being that, and express such petulance over being denied an audience - or more appropriately, a target. Seems that’s their problem, not mine.

Meade, I’m terribly sorry to offend you but I like the word fuck. I really fucking like it, fuckity fuck fuck fuck! I also like cunt and twat and motherfucker and wanker and shitstain and all manner of other dirty words. It’s 2018 and this kind of peppery language is no longer a horrifying thing most places outside of church - heck, in the legal profession I heard it all the time from the majority of coworkers and colleagues and clients and it’s just not something I can get all Puritan about anymore. I don’t think I’m the only one here who uses salty language and I certainly hope you aren’t more offended because I have girl cooties because that’s just not ok in 2018 - I’m allowed to swear like a boy sailor if I want to.

Wow! That's something to think about. Maybe I overreacted.

wesw · Post by **wesw** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:11 pm

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ex-khobar Andy · Post by **ex-khobar Andy** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:26 pm

RayThom wrote:
Wow! That's something to think about. Maybe I overreacted. /s

FTFY, Ray. I hope that removes all confusion.

MajGenl.Meade · Post by **MajGenl.Meade** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:29 am

Ah well, lib is far from the only person here with a juvenile, and probably psychotic, obsession over the contents of their own and other people's underwear. I do expect better from intelligent people than to wallow in the mud with other pigs. That observation catches me in the same net; why I am in this toxic environment every day and how can I complain when, by my own choice, the mud sticks to me too?

The answer to the movie thing is of course "The History of Mr Polly". It's been real but it became false. See yez around.

ex-khobar Andy · Post by **ex-khobar Andy** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:13 am

MGM I am distressed if your post means what I think it means: that you are giving up on this place. I don't agree with you much of the time but I have no doubt that you, like most people, have the common good in mind. There are some toxic folk here (pigs, if you will) but I am very interested to hear what they have to say on a range of topics because they are, broadly speaking, representative of a range of types who, at the moment, have the upper hand in our current concepts of democracy. If we are ever to return to a more gentle (in my view) and effective (again, in my view) and sustainable (objectively, not subjectively) notion of how we relate to each other, we need to understand how people think. Perhaps unintentionally the very name of this place (Plan B Forum) is absolutely what we need at the moment: somewhere we can discuss - a forum - alternatives.

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:19 pm

MajGenl.Meade wrote:... The answer to the movie thing is of course "The History of Mr Polly". It's been real but it became false. See yez around.

Aw, c'mon, MGM, you are tougher than that. Every voice needs to be heard. Count to ten, maybe take a break -- but don't leave.

rubato · Post by **rubato** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:02 am

The choice to use foul language habitually reduces the audience who will ever listen to you, bleeds any impact from foul language and makes it useless, and it is just slovenly and lazy. The discipline of learning how to express yourself without doing so makes writing and other expression better more flexible and more creative. Jerry Seinfeld, for example, does not use 'blue' language.

yrs,
rubato

BoSoxGal · Post by **BoSoxGal** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:23 am

Okay, I will take the challenge! No swearing for the rest of the year! I reserve the right to reassess the situation at the new year.

PS - One caveat; I may need to swear a great deal at the results of the Kavanaugh confirmation vote, and perhaps on November 7th. Hopefully not, but just in case . . .

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