Washington Redskin's New Name?
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"Look, I found a Native American who doesn't object to the name, therefore the otherwise near unanimity of Native Americans who object to such a blatantly racist slur must be wrong."
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If they gave the team the name "Redskins" and now take it back, does that make them Indian Givers?
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Just turn it around and use a Caucasian group of savages like the Cassocks, Celts, Vandals, or Spartans. Hey, the Spartans would be ideal since they were most likely the most brutal slave masters in history. It could be used to remind Honkeys how evil they are. Oh wait a minute, that wouldn’t work the Helots, the Spartan’s slaves, were also white so they deserved it.
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Cassocks? Do they play in an all-monk league?
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The Boston Cassoks?
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The Chicago Wops. The New York Yids. The Milwaukee Krauts. Yeah, pretty sure that a slur would be recognized as a slur if it were used against caucasians.
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Here’s a full article about Walter Wetzel and his family sports legacy; note his son Lance sees both sides of the issue in these times, because times change.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/406mtsport ... 7.amp.html
Having lived and worked with the Blackfeet people in Browning, I have some confidence in saying that there are many things they’d like far more from the American people than to be lauded by a NFL sports logo.
But while we’re on the subject of the needs of real native Americans, I urge you to spend half an hour considering the plight of the 5712+ Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women gone from American and Canadian tribes since 2016, by watching Blackfeet Boxing: Not Invisible, the latest episode of ESPN’s award winning series of sports documentaries. My very dear friend Frankie Kipp has made the boxing club his life’s passion for the last 17 years, and he makes it happen on a shoestring in a dilapidated building with constant habitability issues. (Any of you with money to spare and looking for your charitable causes for 2020 write-offs should think about sending some Frankie’s way for the boxing club - you can find him on Facebook.)
Here’s a trailer; the full film is on demand from any cable provider that includes ESPN.
And an article about the documentary and the issue of MMIW:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/06/30 ... #gsc.tab=0
https://www.google.com/amp/s/406mtsport ... 7.amp.html
Having lived and worked with the Blackfeet people in Browning, I have some confidence in saying that there are many things they’d like far more from the American people than to be lauded by a NFL sports logo.
But while we’re on the subject of the needs of real native Americans, I urge you to spend half an hour considering the plight of the 5712+ Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women gone from American and Canadian tribes since 2016, by watching Blackfeet Boxing: Not Invisible, the latest episode of ESPN’s award winning series of sports documentaries. My very dear friend Frankie Kipp has made the boxing club his life’s passion for the last 17 years, and he makes it happen on a shoestring in a dilapidated building with constant habitability issues. (Any of you with money to spare and looking for your charitable causes for 2020 write-offs should think about sending some Frankie’s way for the boxing club - you can find him on Facebook.)
Here’s a trailer; the full film is on demand from any cable provider that includes ESPN.
And an article about the documentary and the issue of MMIW:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/06/30 ... #gsc.tab=0
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As a percentage of total population, I wonder how that compares with the number of missing or murdered non-indigenous American and Canadian women during the same time period.

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Yes, I suppose I could agree with you ... but then we'd both be wrong, wouldn't we?
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Just more evidence of your disgusting laziness and/or utter lack of intellectual capacity to use the most basic tools of internet research before snidely insinuating that a fucking tragedy isn’t really a problem.
Responding to repeated calls from Indigenous groups, other activists, and non-governmental organizations, the Government of Canada under Prime Minister Justin Trudeau established the National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls in September 2016.[14] According to the April 22, 2016 background of the inquiry, between the years 1980 and 2012, Indigenous women and girls represented 16% of all female homicides in Canada, while constituting only 4% of the female population in Canada.[15] A 2011 Statistics Canada report estimated that between 1997 and 2000, the rate of homicides for Aboriginal women and girls was almost seven times higher than that for other females.[16] Compared to non-Indigenous women and girls, they were also "disproportionately affected by all forms of violence".[15] They are also significantly over-represented among female Canadian homicide victims,[17] and are far more likely than other women to go missing.[18]
In the United States, Native American women are more than twice as likely to experience violence than any other demographic. One in three Native women is sexually assaulted during her life, and 67% of these assaults are perpetrated by non-Natives.[19][20][21][22][23][a] Lisa Brunner, executive director of Sacred Spirits First National Coalition states, "What's happened through US Federal law and policy is they created lands of impunity where this is like a playground for serial rapists, batterers, killers, whoever and our children aren't protected at all."[25] The federal Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) was reauthorized in 2013, which for the first time gave tribes jurisdiction to investigate and prosecute felony domestic violence offenses involving both Native American and non-Native offenders on reservations.[26] In 2019 the Democratic House passed H.R. 1585 (Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2019) by a vote of 263–158, which increases tribes' prosecution rights much further. However, in the Republican Senate, its progress has stalled.[28] Law enforcement, journalists, and activists in Indigenous communities – in both the US and Canada – have fought to bring awareness to this connection between sex trafficking, sexual harassment, sexual assault, and the women who go missing and are murdered.[29][30][31]
The 2014 report "Missing and Murdered Aboriginal Women: A National Operational Overview" found that more than 1,000 Indigenous women were murdered over a span of thirty years. While homicides for non-Indigenous women declined between 1980 and 2015, the number of Indigenous women who were victims of homicide increased from 9% of all female homicide victims in 1980 to 24% in 2015.[12]:55[32]:24 From 2001 to 2015, the homicide rate for Indigenous women in Canada was almost six times as high as the homicide rate for non-Indigenous women, representing "4.82 per 100,000 population versus 0.82 per 100,000 population".[32]:22 In Nunavut, Yukon, the Northwest Territories, and in the provinces of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan, this over-representation of Indigenous women among homicide victims was even higher.[32]:22 In response to activists, the Canadian government-funded data collection on missing and murdered women, ending in 2010; the Native Women's Association of Canada has documented 582 cases since the 1960s, with 39% after 2000.[33] Nevertheless, advocacy groups say that many more women have been missing, with the highest number of cases in British Columbia. Notable cases have included 19 women killed in the Highway of Tears murders, and some of the 49 women from the Vancouver area murdered by serial killer Robert Pickton.[9]
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Missing and murdered Indigenous Women:
American Indians and Crime:From 1980 and 2012, Indigenous women and girls represented 16% of all female homicides in Canada while representing only 4% of the female population in Canada.[15] A 2011 Statistics Canada report estimated that between 1997 and 2000, the rate of homicides for Indigenous women was almost seven times higher than other women.[16]:43[46] According to a 2007 study by the province of Saskatchewan – the only province to have systematically reviewed its missing persons files for cases involving Indigenous women – Indigenous women were found to have made up 6% of the province's population, and 60% of the province's missing women cases.[47]
While homicides for non-Indigenous women declined between 1980 and 2015, the number of Indigenous women who were victims of homicide increased from 9% of all female homicide victims in 1980, to 24% in 2015.[12]:55[32]:24 From 2001 to 2015, the homicide rate for Indigenous women in Canada was almost six times as high as the homicide rate for non-Indigenous women, representing "4.82 per 100,000 population versus 0.82 per 100,000 population".[32]:22 In Nunavut, the Yukon, the Northwest Territories, and in the provinces of Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan, this over-representation of Indigenous women among homicide victims was even higher.[32]:22
American Indians experience per capita rates of violence which are more than twice those of the U.S. resident population.
Rates of violence in every age group are higher among American Indians than that of all races.
Nearly a third of all American Indian victims of violence are between ages 18 and 24. This group of American Indians experienced the highest per capita rate of violence of any racial group considered by age & about 1 violent crime for every 4 persons of this age.
Rates of violent victimization for both males and females are higher among American Indians than for all races. The rate of violent crime experienced by American Indian women is nearly 50% higher than that reported by black males.
At least 70% of the violent victimizations experienced by American Indians are committed by persons not of the same race — a substantially higher rate of interracial violence than experienced by white or black victims.
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Beat me to it. Someone actually interested in knowing the information (as opposed to throwing out the question for snark) could have found it in 10 seconds.
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Maybe - but they do have terrible habits
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
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Well they need it loose around the legs for that dance they do.
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Thanks for that BSG and Scooter - I knew that Native American and First Nation women were susceptible to abuse of all sorts but I didn't know that it was so prevalent. Same in Australia.
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Not to say (at all) that it's not the case, but that Amerind info looks suspiciously like a direct lift from a 1999 DOJ report available on Google books.
https://books.google.co.za/books?id=rzD ... ce&f=false
I wonder what the statistics show 20 years later - better or worse? Very grim.
https://books.google.co.za/books?id=rzD ... ce&f=false
I wonder what the statistics show 20 years later - better or worse? Very grim.
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
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Make it the Vandals with the nickname the blue eyed devils.
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.
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There has always been an issue with it in Aus, women in indigenous communities are at great risk of domestic violence and murder.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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How about the “DC Snipers”?
Too soon?
Too soon?
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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'Concrete action in the near future': Eskimos sponsor to end deal with team if name isn't changed
EDMONTON -- A major sponsor of Edmonton's Canadian Football League team says it will end its relationship with the club if the team's name isn't changed.
Belairdirect, a national car and home insurance company, says the Eskimos moniker is no longer suitable.
"At Belairdirect one of our core values is respect, which is founded on seeing diversity as a strength, being inclusive and collaborative," reads a statement from the company.
"In order for us to move forward and continue on with our partnership with the Edmonton Eskimos, we will need to see concrete action in the near future including a name change. We have shared our position with the team."
Belairdirect is a longtime sponsor of the team's 50/50 draw at Commonwealth Stadium.
The team didn't respond with immediate comment but said it was working on a response.
On Friday, the Eskimos issued a statement pledging further engagement with Inuit communities around the future of the team's name.
"We recognize that there has been increased attention to the name recently and we will ramp up our ongoing engagement with the Inuit communities to assess their views," the team said.
Earlier this year, the club announced it had no plans to change its name after a year-long research and engagement program with Canadian Inuit leaders.
"We are the CFL’s most northern team and we want to continue to build our relationship with the Inuit community," Janice Agrios, the chair of the team's board of directors, said in February.
"This is a very important initiative for us."
The team has faced mounting criticism over its team name, with Canada's national Inuit organization saying the term and name is offensive.
CTV News contacted the 13 "premier partners" currently listed on the team's website. Four of them responded, including Belairdirect.
A spokesman for TFB & Associates, the Canadian brand owners of lozenge manufacturer Fisherman's Friend, said the issue is "something we have been following closely."
"We support Edmonton’s CFL team’s re-engagement in discussions with the Inuit communities and are looking forward to the timely and respectful progression of those conversations along with a positive outcome for all."
Boston Pizza declined to comment noting it no longer sponsors the team, despite being listed on the site.
A spokesman for the chain says the decision to end its relationship with the club came "prior to recent events in society" and was part of a shift in marketing strategy away from legacy sponsorships of pro teams.
An employee for SportsInteraction, an online sportsbook, acknowledged CTV News' request and said it had been passed along to the company's public relations team. CTV News has yet to receive a reply.
The Brick, Molson Coors, Discount Car and Truck Rental, James H. Brown and Associates, Jiffy Lube, Save on Foods, Servus Credit Union, Telus and Tim Hortons all did not respond to media requests.
CTV News has also reached out to the CFL for comment but has yet to hear back. In the past, the league has said the decision lies with the team.
Last week, the National Football League's Washington Redskins announced the team was undergoing a "thorough review" of its team name.
The team said recent events around the U.S. and feedback from the community prompted the formal review.
NFL uniform manufacturer Nike removed the team's gear from its online store with retailers Wal-Mart and Target soon following suit.
FedEx, the title sponsor of the Redskins' stadium in Landover, Maryland, said Thursday, "We have communicated to the team in Washington our request that they change the team name."
Also on Friday, Major League Baseball's Cleveland Indians announced they too were reviewing their team name.
"We are committed to making a positive impact in our community and embrace our responsibility to advance social justice and equality," the team said in a statement that came just hours after the Washington NFL team's announcement.
"Our organization fully recognizes our team name is among the most visible ways in which we connect with the community."
"Hang on while I log in to the James Webb telescope to search the known universe for who the fuck asked you." -- James Fell
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If I were the Eskimo's owner, I'd change their name to the Edmonton Pies.