So what are your plans?

[wesw]

I m with BP

but I m really afraid that we might be wrong

if I was in an urban area or mid sized city, I would be more worried.

[BoSoxGal]

I m with BP

but I m really afraid that we might be wrong

if I was in an urban area or mid sized city, I would be more worried.

Of course you are, you’ve been inside the hive mind for years now.

[dales]

Of course you are, you’ve been inside the hive mind for years now.

And from reading the endless crapola that wes posts, stung in the asssss countless times.

[Guinevere]

[Scooter]

If Trump is re-elected and Republicans retain control of the Senate, the federal courts will become tilted so far to the right that same-sex marriage bans and so-called "sodomy" laws will be reinstated, and protections against anti-LGBT discrimination will be outlawed. Pink triangles, concentration camps and extermination will follow. So I will be volunteering with Rainbow Railroad to help with what will become of flood of LGBT refugees across the border, and I will be pleading with all of my LGBT friends in the U.S. to escape before it is too late.

[Econoline]

Gonna rent a helium tank.

Seriously thinking similar thoughts. I'm almost 74 and that's a pretty good run. Getting too old for this shit.

[Joe Guy]

Cheer up. Along with Trump's Covid brain-damaged logic, this cartoon could also apply to the outcome of the election...

[wesw]

so funny....

trump ends every rally with YMCA

never have so many old white men be-bopped to the village people

a truly inspirational and uplifting song

that has to be really hard to swallow for the militant gay folks

gay men love trump

black men love trump

bobby orr, brett favre, jack Nicklaus and lil wayne all endorsed trump this week

suck one for the Donald..., I love it

[Big RR]

Why do you do it for businesses? Generally one does not pay tax on income was has paid to another taxing authority, but Trump changed that for individuals. Personally, it would make far more sense to me to do away with that deduction entirely, than to cap it (only for individuals). If you don't want to subsidize my property tax, I imagine you think Trump's cap is wrong as well and the deduction should be phased out.

And then, why should either of us subsidize the other's charitable deductions, healthcare expenses, or mortgage interest? And why should I subsidize your capital gains by charging a lower rate on them than my interest or other income? Right?

ETA: And, in any event, Trump shouldn't claim to cut taxes when all he does for ordinary taxpayers is give with one hand and take with the other.

Glad to see you're in favor of a flat tax, then.

I never said that; we're discussing deductions from gross income, not tax rates. True, I did mention capital gains tax rates, but again never advanced any opinion on what those rates should be.

And, FWIW, I was responding to your question, not defending limiting or removing personal deductions.

[Guinevere]

It’s just typical Trumpanzee change the subject because why answer real questions gaslighting.

[wesw]

I was responding to scooter

he fantasizes about killing 30 million trump supportterrs, then claims we will exterminate gay people?

he is dangerous and unstable, imho.

crazy man

we should consider adding a few states to our union

the great state of alberta has a nice ring to it...….

[Scooter]

I'm not fantasizing about killing anyone. You're the one saying that if Trump loses the election, his supporters will take to the streets to face off against the world's most powerful military machine. I'm just pointing out the logical consequence of that.

And if you want Alberta, you can have it. Take Saskatchewan as a bonus.

[wesw]

[Darren]

We may see an initial outbreak of violence in the usual places. Protestors that burnt police cars in Philly got federal charges. The same thing happened to the kid in Pittsburgh.

To the extent coordination exists, the Stingrays deployed have been used to document the connections. More people will be arrested on federal charges. Those charges won't be dropped.

My prediction is that we may see an initial upswing in violence and a rapid decrease after nationwide arrests. The local looting will continue to some extent. After you've destroyed your neighborhood, you're out of gusto. That's self limiting.

Instigators that are crossing state lines won't be doing that much longer.

[Darren]

If Trump is re-elected and Republicans retain control of the Senate, the federal courts will become tilted so far to the right that same-sex marriage bans and so-called "sodomy" laws will be reinstated, and protections against anti-LGBT discrimination will be outlawed. Pink triangles, concentration camps and extermination will follow. So I will be volunteering with Rainbow Railroad to help with what will become of flood of LGBT refugees across the border, and I will be pleading with all of my LGBT friends in the U.S. to escape before it is too late.

Your LBGT friends will be fine.

If they have a run in with the law it won't be because of their preferences.

As the War on Drugs is reined in and asset forfeiture laws are challenged we'll see less reason for police interactions. The China Effect will also play a role in eliminating perceived divisions within the population as employment increases.

[BoSoxGal]

And if you want Alberta, you can have it. Take Saskatchewan as a bonus.

Canada’s right wing; no thanks!

[wesw]

cool.

how about nova scotia?

[Darren]

I'd be more interested if a case reaches SCOTUS to decide whether or not part of a state can become a separate state.

Some say West Virginia separating from Virginia was unconstitutional. All that happened was West Virginia had to repay Virginia part of the existing public debt based on the SCOTUS ruling. I think West Virginia finally paid that off in the early 1900s.

If splitting is allowed I can see more red states form during the Trump Interregnum.

[Bicycle Bill]

Adding/creating a new state (or states) would require, among other things, congressional approval.  Article IV of the U.S. Constitution discusses the process for admitting new states to the federal union.  Section 3 of Article IV provides:

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

If the Congress approves a measure to create a new state, the measure would be presented to the President of the United States for approval or veto.  In the event of a veto, the measure may be approved over the President’s objections with a two-thirds vote of the U.S. Senate and the U.S. House of Representatives.  For example, President Andrew Johnson vetoed S. 456, the Nebraska state admission act, in January 1867, but the veto was overridden, resulting in Nebraska’s admission to the union.

Then too, as noted above, Section 3 of Article IV of the U.S. Constitution requires the “Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress” for specified acts to create new states.  When West Virginia became a state in 1863, Section 3 generally was interpreted to require the consent of the state legislature and the Congress in order to split Virginia (President Lincoln and some others recognized a unionist legislature—established in West Virginia after the rest of Virginia joined the Confederacy—as the body then empowered to give the required state legislative consent).  There have been other interpretations of Section 3 over time.  Based on the most recent precedent from 1863, it appears most likely that the U.S. Constitution requires a state’s legislature — along with the Congress — to consent before that state is split into two or more new states.

Now consider how long Puerto Rico has been discussing statehood.  Remember too that there have been several initiatives to split California into three (or more) states.   Neither of these have come to fruition, so why would a bunch of red-hatted redneck bigots trying to split apart, say, Texas or Florida have any better chances of success?

-"BB"-

[Darren]

We'll have to see what happens in the upcoming years.