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We all miss you.
No, we "all" don't. I have never liked her, never. I have watched her lie and smirk and bait and troll for several years now. I have had her stick her nose in where it does not belong and interfere in arguments just for the sake of getting attention. I have watched her change her posts and then claim her brain does not work right. That I will grant her, her brain definitely does not work right.

Most of this is nothing new folks you just aren't used to her aiming it at you.

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'kay Joe, wanna PM?

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it's all about their personal vendetta against ~Steve, which they can't let go even though he's apologized. They're hurting an old friend, which doesn't seem to matter so long as they can be cruel to a wounded man.
Okay, now this I am going to comment on... some reality reminders are in order:

First, there is no one, (with the possible exception of Gwen, who's arrogance, threats, and shameless dishonesty directly resulted in the creation of Plan B) who has done more material damage to Gar and his efforts than Steve has.

Let's not pretend that all the damage and wrong that Steve has done is represented in this one single incident. That is far from what the factual record indicates.


Steve has engaged in a long, ongoing and worsening pattern of behavior that comprises the number one reason that participation on both CSB boards has now been reduced to a trickle. He has done this through his lies about what other posters have said and done, his lies about what he has said and done, his gratuitous attacks on other posters who dared to challenge or question him about anything, his bullying of inoffensive posters and his sneering attitude towards those who didn't agree with him.

He's done it with his deliberate out of the blue attempts to stir up drama and shit, ( that "polite question" troll thread is only the latest example; anyone interested in the quality of Gar's boards should have been jumping all over Steve for that one; nobody else...I and others did) He's done it with his monomaniacal one note obsessions, and his attempts to turn nearly every thread into yet another platform for him to bloviate and pontificate endlessly about them. He's done it with his misogynist attacks, and he's done it with his jumping in to fan the flames of personal disputes that had nothing to do with him.

I'm sure I've left some aspects of his appalling behavior out...(it's like he had a check list written out of everything one could do to alienate people and drive them away, so he could be sure not to leave anything out)

....Oh yeah, on top of all of this he has the brass balled gall to try and piss and moan about how he's somehow "the victim", (rather than "the perp" which is what he indisputably is) and pushes the shameless lie that he's somehow been "targeted" for no reason at all except the pleasure of unreasoning, "target seeking sadists", rather than as a result of his own toxic, disgusting behavior. (Which is of course the truth)

And now recently, as if all this weren't enough, not content with having fouled the nest to such a point that almost no one wants to participate in a forum where he roams, he's attempted to enlist the help of Gar himself to get rid of the few posters left who have refused to be driven off by his antics.

It didn't start out this way. Before Steve descended down this spiral of viciousness, delusion and paranoia, he was one of the most universally liked posters at the CSB. When he first started down this road, many people, (myself included) tried to get him to turn back and come in off the ledge. But one by one we all gave up on him, until today the only ones who he has left who want anything to do with him are the ones who were standing on the street yelling, "Jump! Jump!" people who, in his current condition of mental deterioration he believes to be his friends, but who really did nothing but contribute to the sorry state he is in.

The only other folks who will have anything to do with him are a couple of other people who decided to travel down the same friendship ending, reputation destroying, and credibility shredding path of trolling, obsession, and dishonesty that he did. It's not a path anyone should wish to take.
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One of the reasons I left CSB was the growing number of mind-numbingly petty threads like this one. Here at least it has mostly been confined to one thread (thank you Sean) and one up in News and Suggestions. At the other place it began that way and rapidly spread into what seemed to be all threads.

Initially, one person may have been "at fault" but one person can easily be ignored, even without the red-destructo button. Nothing that anyone says here can remotely damage any other person. Create anger, yes I can see that happening. And I see responses in anger which encourage further attack which encourage.... MAD all over again.

Since you Lo suggested some confidence in how I might view things and mediate to bring them to a conclusion, here's how I view things. Lo - stop. Just stop. Drop this. It has already become what you earlier referred to as "he said - she said". That's all it is. The law of non-contradiction applies - you "both" (whoever both is) may be wrong but you cannot "both" be right.

Someone needs to take the step back and stop worrying this old bone. I think you should do it Lo because (I'm sorry) I see you as having cast the first tiny little bit of gravel over the fence. The neighbours had a choice then and I think they made the wrong one but it's easier for one person to exert self-control than it is for a group. Whoever was "right" back then, all are "wrong" now in carrying on this unedifying bickering.

Lo, take a deep breath, consider your spiritual mottos and take them seriously enough to apply them now. Show that it can be done and don't be smug. That's my job.

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Meade check your PM's (this is unconnected to this thread, before Lo gets paranoid)
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Gob wrote:Meade check your PM's (this is unconnected to this thread, before Lo gets paranoid)
I checked and the answer is "Yes please but you have to bring the monkey AND the plywood violin".
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I need your addy mate :D
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Gob wrote:I need your addy mate :D
I knew you never mailed that Xmas card!
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Lord Jim wrote:But one by one we all gave up on him, until today the only ones who he has left who want anything to do with him are the ones who were standing on the street yelling, "Jump! Jump!" people who, in his current condition of mental deterioration he believes to be his friends, but who really did nothing but contribute to the sorry state he is in.
And what do you imagine is going on here? You don't think some manipulative bitch or bitches behind the scenes is playing Iago to loca's Othello, preying on her insecurities, whispering their own version of what others have been saying into her ear so as to cause to see hostility and betrayal where none existed? They are stooping to using an addict and all of the messy thinking and behaviour that goes with that in order to carry out their vendettas.

Unless anyone believes it to be complete happenstance that the person they "predicted" would be the one to antagonize the entire board is the same person who ends up going completely off the rails (in spite of drinking LESS than she used to) and is the same person who is now making nicey nice with the gang with whom until recently she shared nothing but a mutual contempt.

And just like most of those they have sucked into their games over the years, she is completely oblivious to being used by them.
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Thank you, scooter.

I don't know that the diagnostic is exactly on point but there is something nasty in the whole "hate Loca" thing. But they have always needed to hate someone. LJ drags hatred of Steve into this board where he has never posted (to the best of my knowledge). Sean creates a whole thread to bitch out Loca. WGAF?

She's dealing with her life.

Piss off.

eh?



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Scooter wrote:
Lord Jim wrote:But one by one we all gave up on him, until today the only ones who he has left who want anything to do with him are the ones who were standing on the street yelling, "Jump! Jump!" people who, in his current condition of mental deterioration he believes to be his friends, but who really did nothing but contribute to the sorry state he is in.
And what do you imagine is going on here? You don't think some manipulative bitch or bitches behind the scenes is playing Iago to loca's Othello, preying on her insecurities, whispering their own version of what others have been saying into her ear so as to cause to see hostility and betrayal where none existed? They are stooping to using an addict and all of the messy thinking and behaviour that goes with that in order to carry out their vendettas.

Unless anyone believes it to be complete happenstance that the person they "predicted" would be the one to antagonize the entire board is the same person who ends up going completely off the rails (in spite of drinking LESS than she used to) and is the same person who is now making nicey nice with the gang with whom until recently she shared nothing but a mutual contempt.

And just like most of those they have sucked into their games over the years, she is completely oblivious to being used by them.
That's a very good possibility Scoot... it would explain a lot. Of course only Lo can know whether this is the case and therefore only Lo can do anything about it if it is the case...
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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Scooter wrote:
Lord Jim wrote:But one by one we all gave up on him, until today the only ones who he has left who want anything to do with him are the ones who were standing on the street yelling, "Jump! Jump!" people who, in his current condition of mental deterioration he believes to be his friends, but who really did nothing but contribute to the sorry state he is in.
And what do you imagine is going on here? You don't think some manipulative bitch or bitches behind the scenes is playing Iago to loca's Othello, preying on her insecurities, whispering their own version of what others have been saying into her ear so as to cause to see hostility and betrayal where none existed? They are stooping to using an addict and all of the messy thinking and behaviour that goes with that in order to carry out their vendettas.

Unless anyone believes it to be complete happenstance that the person they "predicted" would be the one to antagonize the entire board is the same person who ends up going completely off the rails (in spite of drinking LESS than she used to) and is the same person who is now making nicey nice with the gang with whom until recently she shared nothing but a mutual contempt.

And just like most of those they have sucked into their games over the years, she is completely oblivious to being used by them.
I'd be very surprised and disappointed if anyone from PlanB were doing this - if indeed anyone is :shrug

Lemme tell you what I dislike about all this - I dislike with a passion the fact that I came here this morning read the thread and had an over whelming impulse to have to post whether or not I have exchanged pm's with X Y or Z poster or emails and when & where that was and what was in them ... shame on ALL of you for actually making me feel uncomfortable here for the first time ever.
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Well there you go.

I apologise to you as well RB.
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I'd be very surprised and disappointed if anyone from PlanB were doing this
I don't think that's what Scooter is suggesting as a possibility.
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With all due respect RB, I'm sorry to hear that you feel uncomfortable but at the same time I do not feel in any way responsible for your discomfort. I don't believe in reining in what I feel the need to say (type) just in case it upsets an unrelated member who, let's face it, isn't being coerced in any way to read what I write. We each take (or at least should take) responsibility for what we read and write here. If a thread were to make me feel uncomfortable I would avoid it. I wouldn't feel the need to slap the contributors on the wrist for offending my sensibilities. That to me would be being just a tad precious.


I must add here RB that having read back what I have just written I truly hope this post isn't taken as mean-spirited towards you. That was honestly not my intention. It's just my thoughts on the matter.
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Lord Jim wrote:
I'd be very surprised and disappointed if anyone from PlanB were doing this
I don't think that's what Scooter is suggesting as a possibility.
I don't think it's a genuine Plan B member (if anyone at all of course...). By 'genuine' of course I mean somebody who is here to enrich the board rather than simply here to act as an agent provocateur...
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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We each take (or at least should take) responsibility for what we read and write here. If a thread were to make me feel uncomfortable I would avoid it.
That's where I'm at now.

Fergit the ignore button.

I guess it's time I take a little responsibility fer what I read and write.

I will admit however that I did try the ignore button.

If someone was to ignore just 2 of the more prolific posters threads would be very very short.

Just an observation...
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Sean wrote:With all due respect RB, I'm sorry to hear that you feel uncomfortable but at the same time I do not feel in any way responsible for your discomfort. I don't believe in reining in what I feel the need to say (type) just in case it upsets an unrelated member who, let's face it, isn't being coerced in any way to read what I write. We each take (or at least should take) responsibility for what we read and write here. If a thread were to make me feel uncomfortable I would avoid it. I wouldn't feel the need to slap the contributors on the wrist for offending my sensibilities. That to me would be being just a tad precious.


I must add here RB that having read back what I have just written I truly hope this post isn't taken as mean-spirited towards you. That was honestly not my intention. It's just my thoughts on the matter.
I haven't taken it as mean spirited and to a large degree I agree with the sentiment however thats why I left CSB because I was fed up to the back teeth of avoiding threads - eventually there comes a point where theres no bloody threads of interest left to even read. I don't want to see us go the same way Sean and that takes not just indivudual responsibility but a collective responsibility and effort to ensure we don't end up like that.
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I agree wholeheartedly RB, I don't want this to go the same way either. However, we're not like the CSB just yet... at least this is being fairly well contained so far. Don't forget that this very thread was created so as not to bugger up an innocent thread. If we ever look like heading down the road where every other thread is contaminated then we need to have a serious look at things but until then it's simply arguing (like it suggests in the forum tagline) and easily avoidable if one wishes.
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Nicely put RB and Sean.

To further expedite things this will be my last post in this thread, and my last post on the "matter".
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