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@meric@nwom@n wrote:Do youse Jews still have it done later in life or do you keep the
Moyle on speed dial the last trimester? (I hope that's the spelling of the cutter.)
The circumcision ceremony ("brith milah") is generally performed on the boy's eighth day. And yes, you have to keep the mohel/moyel on speed dial.
@meric@nwom@n wrote:Any Moyles ever get sued for botching the job?
I don't know of any personally, but I'm sure it does happen. But probably less frequently than the general run of pediatricians who do it. (My son's mohel was also a pediatrician with a general practice.) In any event, among all the negligence/med-mal cases I have seen and heard about, circumcision-related cases are extremely rare. (I have heard about only one in the last 18 years -- an MD, not a mohel).
@meric@nwom@n wrote:Does it actually say "thou shalt cut off the foreskin" in the old Testament?
Yes, it does. Genesis 17:10-14.
@meric@nwom@n wrote:If we were created in God's image do you believe ... Never mind.
OK.
GAH!

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9 And God said unto Abraham: 'And as for thee, thou shalt keep My covenant, thou, and thy seed after thee throughout their generations.
10 This is My covenant, which ye shall keep, between Me and you and thy seed after thee: every male among you shall be circumcised.
11 And ye shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of a covenant betwixt Me and you.
12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every male throughout your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any foreigner, that is not of thy seed.
And some people take this as the work of an omnipotent being? Seriously?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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@meric@nwom@n wrote:Any Moyles ever get sued for botching the job?
Is that how you spell the name of the person who performs the procedure?

Oh sweet irony... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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Sean wrote:
@meric@nwom@n wrote:Any Moyles ever get sued for botching the job?
Is that how you spell the name of the person who performs the procedure?

Oh sweet irony... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The circumcision ceremony ("brith milah") is generally performed on the boy's eighth day. And yes, you have to keep the mohel/moyel on speed dial.
Close but no cigar apparently.

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Shame...
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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Sorry to have bursted your little bubble. :mrgreen:

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No you're not! :nana
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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Under Jewish law, a mohel must draw blood from the circumcision wound. Most mohels do it by hand with a suction device, but some Orthodox groups use their mouth to draw blood after cutting the foreskin. [3]
:o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohel

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Sean wrote:No you're not! :nana

Probably not so much so. :D

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@meric@nwom@n wrote:
Under Jewish law, a mohel must draw blood from the circumcision wound. Most mohels do it by hand with a suction device, but some Orthodox groups use their mouth to draw blood after cutting the foreskin. [3]
:o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohel
No doubt God provides protection from infection when the nasty bacteria of the mohel's mouth come into contact with the bloodstream of a newborn infant with underdeveloped immunity.
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@meric@nwom@n wrote:
Under Jewish law, a mohel must draw blood from the circumcision wound. Most mohels do it by hand with a suction device, but some Orthodox groups use their mouth to draw blood after cutting the foreskin. [3]
:o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohel
I can imagine how an omnipotent being would require that.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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Only if the omnipotent being in question is obsessed with Twilight...
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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Gob wrote:
@meric@nwom@n wrote:
Under Jewish law, a mohel must draw blood from the circumcision wound. Most mohels do it by hand with a suction device, but some Orthodox groups use their mouth to draw blood after cutting the foreskin. [3]
:o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohel
I can imagine how an omnipotent being would require that.

Obviously a lot of intelligent people accept what is in the Bible. Sue is no dummy and I would not wish to insult her for her beliefs.

However that does not keep me from occasionally wondering if all the stuff in the Bible was written down as a great psychology experiment to see just what people will accept and do if you say God commands it.

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I'd be surprised if Sue thought this was a god given command.

But I stand to be surprised...
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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Crackpot wrote:They use local (topical) anastetic SMF. Perhaps ypu should do some research before going off.

Not to mention comparing circumsision to abdominal surgery just shows plain ignorance.
Sorry CP my mistake i forgot they use Emla cream...thats ok tho because I am sure if i had the tip off my finger cut off i would only need Emla!


Ignorant.......Hmmmm lemme think no don't get the ignorant comment.....removing something from a body is surgery be it an appendix or a foreskin.

I dont see how that can be classed as ignorance. Your appendix is useless and one day you MAY get appendicitis in the same way you MAY get an infection under a foreskin. So some people choose to have their child circumcised because when hes 75 he MAY get an infection. Your sons nob should be no concern of yours at that age! The only difference I see is that the foreskin has a job....it protects the glands of the penis. Yet some people are willing to chose to remove it. So on that line of thinking while the child is getting a circumcision lets remove his appendix as well because he MAY get appendicitis when hes 75 too.

As Sean has previously posted, we gave Pudd the choice. We made the decision not to have him circumcised because of how we feel. Our decision will not affect him for the rest of his life. Much the same as we chose not to have him christened/baptised we have given him a CHOICE. When he reaches an age he is able to make that decision for himself whether it be for religious or personal reasons I know we will stand by him 100%.


Please excuse my religious ignorance, but does it say in some religious script that you can get into the Pearly gates with a foreskin?

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Gob wrote:I'd be surprised if Sue thought this was a god given command.

But I stand to be surprised...

I was actually thinking along the lines of the actual commandment to circumcise.

"He let's see if they will actually cut the foreskin off if we say God said to."

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Ignorant.......Hmmmm lemme think no don't get the ignorant comment.....removing something from a body is surgery be it an appendix or a foreskin.
Well SMF, if you don't like the term "ignorant" to describe the unwillingness or inability to see the distinction between a major invasive procedure and a minor non-invasive one, how does the phrase "hyperbolic nonsense" strike you?

"removing something from a body is surgery"....

following that line of "reasoning" there's no distinction to be made between removing a mole and a heart transplant....

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I got a splinter! No less than general anesthesia for me!
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Jim - Surgery is surgery period.

Whether its a removal of a mole or an organ transplant, they are both surgeries. Irrelevant of how invasive either is.

Therefore circumcision = surgery.

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CP :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Well you are male!!

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