Sandusky: The Enablers

[dales]

Time for the JoPa statue to be melted down and sold as scrap.

[Guinevere]

That bronze is valuable, how about melting it down, selling it, and donating the proceeds to a charity that advocates for and/or counsels abused children. Penn State should also take a chunk of their ill-gotten football gains and do something similar. Not that it even begins to wipe away the guilt and complicity, but get real, as a huge institution it *could* be a force of good, if the Trustees would get their heads out of their collective asses.

[Gob]

Nice thought Guin!

[Lord Jim]

I disagree with those who are calling for the abolition of big time college sports; I think the view is narrow and short sighted.

Yes, there are problems, but the money those programs bring in also subsidize all kinds of programs at those schools to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars nationwide that wouldn't exist otherwise.

Penn State should also take a chunk of their ill-gotten football gains and do something similar.

That lines up with something I've thought would make sense; if Penn State does play this year, it should donate all the profits from the games to some organization that helps abused children.

[Big RR]

Yes, there are problems, but the money those programs bring in also subsidize all kinds of programs at those schools to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars nationwide that wouldn't exist otherwise.

Perhaps, but only for a fairly small number of schools; from what I've read, something like less than a thirdof the BCS football schools make a prfit on their football programs, others drop millions into it. Sports increase exposure and generate alumni interest, but they are rarely moneymakers, especially when one looks at the costs of top flight coaches and stadiums, flying to away games, etc.

edited to add:

THis link doesn't exactly show 2/3 post losses, but it does show that of the FBS teams (the biggest teams in the country), nearly half post losses along the lines of $2.3 Million. http://www.investopedia.com/financial-e ... z21SMZH3A2

And these are the biggest football in the country, imagine what losses are posted by the FBS (lower part of division 1) and Divion 2 and 3 schools.

[Grim Reaper]

Penn State is getting hammered over this:

$60 million fine
Banned from postseason bowl for four years
Joe Paterno's wins from 1998-2011 were stripped, for a total of 111 wins removed.

The $60 million fine probably hurts them less than the four year ban, it will basically erase their football team for the next four years as potential athletes choose to go to other schools.

[dgs49]

This is consistent with the great American tradition of punishing the innocent for the sins of those who cannot personally repay.

Penn State's football program was and remains an exemplary program, within the "world" of Division I sports.

If Paterno had merely strangled his wife the NCAA would have done nothing. And rightly so.

This episode has brought about a universal orgasm of phony sanctimony. What a spectacle.

[Grim Reaper]

The NCAA would likely have still done something, but it would have been limited to Joe Paterno. This was a larger conspiracy that affected more than just one person.

[RayThom]

Everyone claims to be disgusted by child-rape and molestation until it upsets their personal value system and comfort zone in some way.

Many catholics are pissed off that Msgr. Lynn sits in prison for child endangerment, and his cohort, Rev. James Brennan, is being tried again early next year. "Innocent" their supports claim, most agreeing that it's a "get rich quick" scheme perpetrated by the child-rape victims. The nerve of these of these victims, they should all be excommunicated.

And now the same with the Joe Paterno gang of child-rapists and enablers. All of this legal mumbo-jumbo is untrue and now the whole university, and all concerned, are paying the price for not understanding the charges properly. The victims, the court system, the NCAA, got it all wrong and they were way to quick in the way they have handled it. If the accused and convicted only had more time maybe it would all go away.

Well... to all these pompous assholes I say fuck 'em all. A life lesson learned the hard way and hopefully examples that will lessen these horrendous crimes against our children in the future. DIXI

[rubato]

This is consistent with the great American tradition of punishing the innocent for the sins of those who cannot personally repay.

Penn State's football program was and remains an exemplary program, within the "world" of Division I sports.

If Paterno had merely strangled his wife the NCAA would have done nothing. And rightly so.

This episode has brought about a universal orgasm of phony sanctimony. What a spectacle.

Some people can be relied on to perpetuate child rape. Like you.

yrs,
rubato

[Long Run]

The horror that keeps on horroring (makes you wonder if the son was himself a victim):

There was never anything good to come out of the sickening sexual abuse scandal that saw former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky convicted of multiple crimes against children in 2012 and imprisoned for the rest of his days.

That face, grim and unapologetic, became a mugshot that embodied evil. It made us question so much, from how we care for our children to how we love our sports and our colleges, to what we are prepared to forgive and how much guilt should be cast on previously beloved enablers of sin.

If there was one shred of hope that could be taken from that time, it was that Sandusky would never again see freedom, and in theory be powerless to cause any more damage.

If only it were that simple.


On Monday, Pennsylvania police announced Sandusky’s son, Jeffrey, had been accused of child abuse hauntingly similar to that conducted by his father. And, just like that, the scars were once again picked open.

According to court records, Jeffrey Sandusky is charged with 14 counts, including criminal solicitation and corruption of minors. The records stated that the two victims were minors with whom Sandusky had daily contact and that he is accused of asking one to send him nude photos via text message. Once turned down, Sandusky asked the victim to erase the messages, records show.

“No, we don't need to talk and we aren't going to,” the victim responded. “You did what you did and I'm not going to give you a chance to try to justify it. You literally tried to guilt me into doing it and you even told me specifically what I 'needed' to do. You know who does that? Rapists and abusers… I don't know how many times I need to tell you no and to stop before you get it.”

It is also claimed Jeffrey Sandusky attempted to persuade a 16-year-old girl to give him oral sex in 2013.

* * **

Jeffrey Sandusky is 41 and therefore bound to legal behavior and responsibility for his own actions. If he is found guilty he deserves punishment under the full force of the law.

* * *
However, it will be impossible for many to avoid the thought that this is not mere coincidence, that something in the younger Sandusky’s life was impacted by what he heard, saw or suspected. The notion that Jeffrey Sandusky experienced something, witnessed something, was exposed to a line of thinking or even had deep demons drawn out of him by a scandal that has cursed a family name.

Not one shred of the blame on Jeffrey is lessened if so. If Jerry Sandusky’s actions, either recent or historic, had a part to play in his son’s alleged activity the culpability is not halved or replaced. It is – to borrow a legal phrase – joint and several.

Either way, the Sandusky name is back in the news, again for alleged behavior that is unspeakably awful.

More at:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/co ... /97870072/

[RayThom]

The horror that keeps on horroring (makes you wonder if the son was himself a victim)

You can bet on it. His father probably adopted him for the sole purpose of grooming the kid into sexual submissiveness. I'm sure wrongheaded and dysfunctional sexual behavior was rife during his developmental years. He knows better but just can't help himself.

Look for this exact defense when Jr.'s criminal court trial begins.

And something else to ponder, where was mom Sandusky while this abuse was happening? She should be in jail with her husband.

[Lord Jim]

I just saw this...

This is so incredibly tragic and awful, there's no way to know where to begin...

[Big RR]

Can't add to that Jim.