And a lot of fucking good those eleven carrier task groups did when Russia annexed Crimea (which was part of Ukraine at the time).Lord Jim wrote:]Yeah, well we still have 11 carrier task force groups...
So keep on laffin' you Eur-o-pean mother fuckers...
And when we show up to save your bacon yet again, you can just say "thank you"...
Stupor Tuesday.
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Paying for those carrier groups is also the reason we are sicker, have more poverty, and worse education than we should.
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A valid point...And a lot of fucking good those eleven carrier task groups did when Russia annexed Crimea
We have utterly failed to stand up to Vladimir "the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest catastrophe of the 20th Century" Putin...
Through the past two Presidencies...
I give GWB a heaping portion of the blame on this...Putin wasn't Yeltsin...when 43 said "I looked into his eyes and I saw a man I could trust" he should have said, "I looked into his eyes and I saw the cold dead eyes of a shark and a KGB man"...
But then it has been this Administration that bragged about hitting "the re-set button" and made sham deal after sham deal brokered by this murderous thug...
Barack Obama ridiculed Mitt Romney during the 2012 election when Romney called Russia "our greatest adversary" saying "The 1980s called...they want their foreign policy back...."
Hardy har har....
He must have gotten that line from the same wise adviser who told him ISIS was a "JV team"....

ETA:
Our policy has been so feckless and craven, that we haven't even sent defensive weapons to the Ukrainians, or even shared intelligence with them that would enable them to better defend themselves against Putin's thugs...
We have sent a message of such pitiable incompetence and unwillingness to act that now we have to deal with him in Syria...

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Scooter wrote:I may have spoken too soon - Sanders just took a very strong lead in MN, does that bode something for future primaries in that region of the country?
Bern is doing well but Hillary is almost halfway there, counting superdelegates:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... emocratic/
Hillary: 1034
Sanders: 408
2383 needed to win.
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Yes, President One-Liner's zingers come back to zap him with some regularity.
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A friend of mine posted on Facebook: "Christie's introduction of Trump last night looked like one of those servicemen held captive by the Taliban forced to read a prepared message."

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A while back I went to see a financial adviser up in Monroe. During the Casual part of our conversation, I brought up my concerns over the nation debt leading to a collapse of the economy. He on the other hand didn’t blink an eye, he had no concerns at all. His attitude was “It has never happen before”. The way I see it there always has to be a first time, so I believe if the debt grow large enough it has to happen.
I realize he is the business of encouraging people to invest their money with him instead of parking it in safer places, so worries about the future of the economy may not be something he would want to encourage. But if he was not sincere he was a good actor.
Am I the only one here worried about the danger the national debt poses?
I don’t care who win as long they save the future of the economy because everything depends on it. I was hoping that Sanders being a socialist and not locked into traditional thinking could do it without be a threat to freedom, but now I don‘t know.
I realize he is the business of encouraging people to invest their money with him instead of parking it in safer places, so worries about the future of the economy may not be something he would want to encourage. But if he was not sincere he was a good actor.
Am I the only one here worried about the danger the national debt poses?
I don’t care who win as long they save the future of the economy because everything depends on it. I was hoping that Sanders being a socialist and not locked into traditional thinking could do it without be a threat to freedom, but now I don‘t know.
I expected to be placed in an air force combat position such as security police, forward air control, pararescue or E.O.D. I would have liked dog handler. I had heard about the dog Nemo and was highly impressed. “SFB” is sad I didn’t end up in E.O.D.
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liberty wrote:A while back I went to see a financial adviser up in Monroe. During the Casual part of our conversation, I brought up my concerns over the nation debt leading to a collapse of the economy. He on the other hand didn’t blink an eye, he had no concerns at all. His attitude was “It has never happen before”. The way I see it there always has to be a first time, so I believe if the debt grow large enough it has to happen.
I realize he is the business of encouraging people to invest their money with him instead of parking it in safer places, so worries about the future of the economy may not be something he would want to encourage. But if he was not sincere he was a good actor.
Am I the only one here is worried about the danger the national debt poses?
I don’t care who win as long they save the future of the economy because everything depends on it. I was hoping that Sanders being a socialist and not locked into traditional thinking could do it without be a threat to freedom, but now I don‘t know.
Obama has reduced the deficit by so much that the Republicans have stopped using it as a slogan.
The deficit explosion came because of GWB policies in any case.

Clinton was actually paying off the debt his last two years.
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Okay, I apologize, but I'm going to continue on my Valdimir Putin riff:
We should have put our foot down, (the US while Bush 43 was President, and the rest of The West) when he grabbed half of Georgia...At that time we should have cut him off from all money -making ventures with the West...
But we stood by and did nothing, and Putin learned a lesson from that...
He has had his opponents imprisoned and murdered, and we treat that as kind of a joke...
We wanted so much to believe after the collapse of The Soviet Union, that Russia would become a normal, law based society, that we have ignored everything that has happened there since there was that brief few years when it looked like it might....
Putin's next move will be to challenge us on the edges of NATO...and test our resolve...he's already tried to stir up trouble in Lithuania, claiming that "ethnic Russians" are being oppressed...
We need to draw a bright red line in NATO member Lithuania...
We've sent a token amount of troops, but it's not good enough...
We need to send a 100,000 member NATO force, (including 50,000 US forces) to Lithuania to send this sonuvabitch a loud, clear, and unmistakable message that if he wants to try and dismember NATO, he's gonna have to fight "the big dog"...
If we don't, Poland will be next on his menu...
We should have put our foot down, (the US while Bush 43 was President, and the rest of The West) when he grabbed half of Georgia...At that time we should have cut him off from all money -making ventures with the West...
But we stood by and did nothing, and Putin learned a lesson from that...
He has had his opponents imprisoned and murdered, and we treat that as kind of a joke...

We wanted so much to believe after the collapse of The Soviet Union, that Russia would become a normal, law based society, that we have ignored everything that has happened there since there was that brief few years when it looked like it might....
Putin's next move will be to challenge us on the edges of NATO...and test our resolve...he's already tried to stir up trouble in Lithuania, claiming that "ethnic Russians" are being oppressed...
We need to draw a bright red line in NATO member Lithuania...
We've sent a token amount of troops, but it's not good enough...
We need to send a 100,000 member NATO force, (including 50,000 US forces) to Lithuania to send this sonuvabitch a loud, clear, and unmistakable message that if he wants to try and dismember NATO, he's gonna have to fight "the big dog"...
If we don't, Poland will be next on his menu...



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Scooter wrote:A friend of mine posted on Facebook: "Christie's introduction of Trump last night looked like one of those servicemen held captive by the Taliban forced to read a prepared message."
I believe that Donald Trump was talking, tonight, and that he, in fact, held an entire press conference. But it was impossible to hear him over Chris Christie's eyes.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/chris-ch ... z41mwVLZdi
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I heard our former Republican NJ governor Christie Whitman on the radio yesterday frankly excoriating Chris Christie for his endorsement of Trump.
His career in electoral politics is over. His only hope for a future is to get the AG slot in a Trump administration.
His career in electoral politics is over. His only hope for a future is to get the AG slot in a Trump administration.
GAH!
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Or in the VP slot...His career in electoral politics is over. His only hope for a future is to get the AG slot in a Trump administration.
And Meg Whitman, ( mega-rich erstwhile GOP candidate for Governor of California) who was Christie's finance chairman, has also disowned him....our former Republican NJ governor Christie Whitman
What Christie has done is opportunism of the most rank and odious sort...he's put all his dice in the Trump cup, and if it fails, he's finished...he will have no future in the Republican Party, or anything associated with it....



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Chris Christie has run true to form. He was always a lying bloviating slimeball.
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“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Uh no, that would be Christie you ignorant asshole:
Oh, I forgot, you liked Christie! You thought he would be a good presidential candidate!
Moron.
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An ex-aide to former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney today lashed out at New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, saying the popular Republican should be treated like a “pariah” in the wake of his endorsement of GOP frontrunner Donald Trump.
“I hope, you know, he’s treated going forward like the pariah that he is in the Republican Party now,” Republican consultant Ryan Williams told “Morning Meeting” host Hillary Chabot on Boston Herald Radio.“No self-respecting Republican should associate themselves with Chris Christie for the remainder of his time in public office.”
Romney last week for the first time entered the Republican primary fray, questioning why Trump has not yet released his tax returns — an issue that ignited for 24 hours, until Trump seized momentum back with the unexpected Christie endorsement on Friday.
The New Jersey governor had been a fierce critic of Trump for months during the campaign, and Williams scathingly suggested today his endorsement was self-serving.
“Chris Christie for his entire career has been for Chris Christie and nobody else,” Williams said. “I think we saw, with the incredibly disgraceful and self-serving endorsement of Donald Trump this weekend, that he’s willing to sink to any depth to remain relevant. This is a man who clearly has never been starved, but for whatever reason, has starved for attention, and has, you know, engaged in this shameful soul-selling with Donald Trump, a man who he criticized repeatedly during the campaign. Now he’s endorsing him and trying to promote his candidacy, but if anybody saw Chris Christie on, I think it was ABC, Stephanopolous’s show this weekend, when he was completely unable to defend any of Donald Trump’s ridiculous policy positions, his Muslim ban, his efforts to make Mexico pay for the wall. I think that, you know, it’s pretty clear what’s behind Chris Christie’s endorsements. Not that he supports Trump, he’s just looking to remain relevant, he’s looking to promote himself, and that’s what Chris Christie has always been about.”
Oh, I forgot, you liked Christie! You thought he would be a good presidential candidate!
Moron.
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“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”