The Verdict

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The issue I was trying to raise is — at what point was it decided that the knee in the neck was a felony assault?
It was judged when the jury convicted him of felony murder; one of the things the jury had to decide is that the murder occurred during the commission of a felony (although IMHO I think it pretty clear that choking someone by placing one's knee on their neck is a felony--what welse would it be?),. FWIW, this is normally the way felony murder is proven--we don't have a separate trial to determine if the robbery in which the guard was killed was a felony. If it was not, then it would not be a felony murder.

Here's a link to the judge's instructions if you would care to review them:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/ ... cfb2783f2/
Chauvin and the three other officers were in a situation where they were becoming involved with an ever-increasing group of potentially hostile persons, making them more and more vulnerable to violence against themselves from said crowd. Because of that, I think that the welfare of Mr. Floyd was no longer their primary focus, and they were more concerned with whether or not THEY were going to be the ones leaving the scene in body bags.
Not their primary focus? Then why was his knee still on his neck? He didn't care what happened to Floyd, at the very least and he killed him. So far as I can see it was not because he feared the crowd or its reaction--if he did maybe he would have acted like an ethical police officer, not to mention like a like a human being, and put him in the car and gotten him medical attention. But he didn't give a damn--that's a depraved heart.

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But why just let it end there with murder and manslaughter charges? Why not add a couple of 'hate-crime' enhancers, since Floyd was black and Chauvin wasn't? Or maybe someone will claim the whole Minneapolis police department is a corrupt organization and bring in some RICO charges as well; or a terrorist group like Al Qaeda, the Ku Klux Klan, or the 'Boogaloo Bois'.
would you prefer we just carry laws on the books that we do not enforce? I'm not a saying any of these crimes are applicable to what happened here, or that there is any evidence that the Minneapolis police department is a corrupt organization, but of they are why not enforce the law?

And why does it bother you so much that someone who killed a man by a reckless (at the very least) act was convicted of a crimes he deserved to be convicted of?
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Bicycle Bill wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:26 pm
Chauvin and the three other officers were in a situation where they were becoming involved with an ever-increasing group of potentially hostile persons, making them more and more vulnerable to violence against themselves from said crowd.
You have completely bought into the bootlickers narrative that was not supported in any way by the facts, and therefore are no longer discussing in good faith, so I think I'm done.
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I've seen much of the videos (not all 9 minutes) but never does it appear that Chauvin is having to defend himself against a hostile crowd. Insouciant is perhaps the appropriate word to describe him.

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I'd say arrogant.

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Chauvin and the three other officers were in a situation where they were becoming involved with an ever-increasing group of potentially hostile persons
Who were hostile (if they were) because they saw a murder being committed right in front of their eyes.

I'm getting tired of lib pretending to be BB.
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Personally, I would stop 5 minutes after Chauvin hangs himself. I would go through the law books line by line and charge him with EVERYTHING I could.
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Not "littering", I trust?
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If I could make it stick, yes.
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