Emma
I thought it was someone fooling around. I saw a guy go to talk to a man in a police officer's uniform, he then got shot.
I saw two people shot dead.
I just ran away. We could smell the gun powder, we were so scared.
We hid from the gunman under a cliff - he was about five metres above us.
We jumped into the water and got to a boat.
I am 16-years-old and was on the island working as a youth leader. We are now in a hotel staying with everyone from the island but we are still missing people.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14260148
Terrorism comes to Norway.
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Public hanging should be reintroduced just for this fucker.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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They might not have known how many gunmen there were, and once panic set in, they were likely not in any shape to rush him at all. And that's assuming they could have gathered their wits long enough to figure out how long he was taking to reload/change weapons and whether they were close enough to rush him before he could react.Lord Jim wrote:Apparently there was no actual security at this camp, but what about adult counselors? (and some of these kids were as old as 19) The guy had to stop from time to time to reload or switch weapons, why didn't anyone try to over power him?
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So, it came out that this guy played WoW, and someone found some posts (Conservatism is his character's name) he made a while back. Weird seeing how someone can act so normally and then murder 80 people.
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Not really.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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The man accused of a massacre at a youth camp in Norway and a bombing in the capital, Oslo, has admitted responsibility, his lawyer says.
Anders Behring Breivik, 32, described his actions as "gruesome but necessary", and said he would explain himself at a court hearing on Monday.
Police have also said another person may have been involved in Friday's attacks, which happened within hours of each other.
"He thought it was gruesome having to commit these acts, but in his head they were necessary," Mr Breivik's lawyer Geir Lippestad told Norwegian media.
He added that the actions had been planned for some time.
Mr Breivik has been charged with committing acts of terrorism, and is due to appear in court on Monday when judges will decide whether he should be detained as the investigation continues.
Still pictures of him, wearing a wetsuit and carrying an automatic weapon, appeared in a 12-minute anti-Muslim video called Knights Templar 2083, which appeared briefly on YouTube.
A 1,500-page document written in English and said to be by Mr Breivik - posted under the pseudonym of Andrew Berwick -was also put online hours before the attacks, suggesting they had been years in the planning.
The document and the video repeatedly refer to the Knights Templar and to multiculturalism and Muslim immigration.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe- ... print=true
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Don't the neighbors always say 'he seemed like such a nice fellow'?
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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So am I getting this right? It takes acts of Terrorism to get Darkblack to come out of hiding?
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Some used to say I was an act of terrorism, CP.Crackpot wrote:So am I getting this right? It takes acts of Terrorism to get Darkblack to come out of hiding?

Nothing so dramatic, however. I've always been jointly fascinated and appalled by applied zealotry in its myriad forms, and happened to be cruising by for a moment. That incautious fellow Gob keeps me abreast (of which he has two, of course - labeled 'left' and 'right' for the convenience of memory's fumbling) regarding events hereabouts occasionally, along with jittery holiday snaps of his sunburned (whoops!).

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darkblack wrote: That incautious fellow Gob keeps me abreast (of which he has two, of course - labeled 'left' and 'right' for the convenience of memory's fumbling) regarding events hereabouts occasionally, along with jittery holiday snaps of his sunburned (whoops!).
No sharing!
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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One can hope that that determination will not require extreme judicial athletics ....Mr Breivik has been charged with committing acts of terrorism, and is due to appear in court on Monday when judges will decide whether he should be detained as the investigation continues.
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Actually, no, Jennifer Rubin, a bloggist for the wash. post should have as she had not issued a retraction 48 hours after who did what was known. Even guest host Laura Inhagram in PRE-taped segement was corrected by the 'station' itself once more was known. CNN's Tim Lister did the same. I hear 2nd hand from a blog that NPR did the same. Hardly an unREASONABLE suspicion.Scooter wrote:And of course conservative media have egg all over their faces after having done everything they could to link these incidents to Islamic terrorism, when the guy is a Christian conservative nationalist who has contributed to anti-Islam websites.
But if you read what she (Rubin) wrote, her supposition was well founded, if it had been Al-Q, the whys were outlined fairly well.
Oh, and Al Jaz (as in -eera) reported an islamic connection.
Even Fox News got this one right at the same time CNN did.
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From one of my favorite blogs:
http://sparklepony.blogspot.com/Evil Pops Its Collar
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This is an undated image obtained from the Twitter page of Anders Behring Breivik, 32, who was arrested Friday July 22, 2011 in connection to the twin attacks on a youth camp and a government building in Oslo, Norway. (AP Photo/Twitter, Anders Behring Breivik)
I resisted posting this, because I thought, OMG, what an unacceptably shallow observation to make! But then I realized that this blog's entire raison d'être is to make shallow observations, so with no small amount of embarrassment, I'll go ahead and make it.
And, well, in for a penny, in for a pound:
Posted by Peteykins at Sunday, July 24, 2011 13 Comments
GAH!
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Collar Schmollar. You could have alerted me to the Scrunchie Situation!
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And while he calls himself 100% Christian, apparently that's not enough to actually be Christian.
And it's cute how they try to paint Timothy McVeigh as an Athiest.
And it's cute how they try to paint Timothy McVeigh as an Athiest.
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Hahahaha, I would've thought you'd have been all over that already. Also check out his obsession with Callista Gingrich's perfectly spherical hair, it's hilarious.Guinevere wrote:Collar Schmollar. You could have alerted me to the Scrunchie Situation!
GAH!
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The Norwegian penal system doesn't offer much in terms of deterrence. I wonder how bad the 74 consecutive 20 year sentences will seem to this nutter when spent in a place like this:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 02,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 02,00.html
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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~ Carl Sagan
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I heard on the news last night that if he gets the maximum under Norwegian law he'll serve about 82 days for each person he killed...
That is fucked up!
That is fucked up!
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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Seriously? Disgusting. He should die of old age while still locked up.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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Yep. 21 years (IIRC) is the maximum prison sentence which can be imposed.
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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21 years is the maximum that someone can be sentenced, but then there is "forvaring" where they can keep a person locked up indefinitely if deemed a threat to society.
So it's unlikely that this guy will ever be let loose.
So it's unlikely that this guy will ever be let loose.