Nice money if you can get it

[Gob]

You are appearing foolish.

He's not appearing foolish.

[loCAtek]

This is another of those "subtle" Canberra bashing articles that I warned you wasrevalent before you came out here Gob.

Now everyone hates me for my pay packet, but chances are they may even be better off than me.

Though I have no plans to leave until I get that big fat pension.

It will actually count for something when I move.

Cool, Gob retires on your pension; not unlike what he criticizes Rube for. Except that Rube has a viable career that he could support himself on. ThX for clearing that up.

[The Hen]

Don't be an arse Lo. At least try to pretend you are not. He has his own public service pension plan.

It's probs just your jealousy rearing it's countenance again.

[Gob]

I have my own pension you moronic pig. Hen has hers, I have mine.

We both bring to our relationship our own pension, and so much more. I know this must be difficult for you to understand, seeing as every relationship you get into you fuck up.

[Gob]

Let's not forget our long service leave too my lover, we'll have a year on full wage to do our grey nomad year.

[rubato]

No, (I'll type this very slowly for you) your assertion that "$157,000/ yr for 16 weeks = $471,000/yr for a US worker"[sic] makes no sense.

Can you substantiate it?

Are you saying that an American worker on a Norwegian oil rig would work for a full year and only have 4 weeks off?

How?

Why?

I believe the numbers quoted are for workers in Norway or on Norwegian oil rigs. This may include Faroese (which there are) and other foreign workers, even Americans if there are any. The US numbers refer to people working in US jurisdictions, even Norwegians.

The other part is an arithmetic problem. 157,000 / 16 = 9,800 per week. Since US workers (and for those of you who don't know this that would include non-US nationals working in the US) work more than 48 weeks a year that would be the equivalent of $471,000/yr. I forget how math arithmetic-challenged some people are. Sorry!

yrs,
rubato

[Gob]

Your assertions, despite your maths juggling, still make no sense, and have no relevance to the actual topic.

The fugues you quote are for Norwegian oil rig workers, and have no relevance or bearing on whatever US workers may or may not do wherever.

Why do you think they only work 16 weeks on the rigs?

Have you been unwell of late?

[The Hen]

And what does Norway have to do with Australian wages?

[rubato]

Your assertions, despite your maths juggling, still make no sense, and have no relevance to the actual topic.

The fugues you quote are for Norwegian oil rig workers, and have no relevance or bearing on whatever US workers may or may not do wherever.

Why do you think they only work 16 weeks on the rigs?

Have you been unwell of late?

The article said they only worked 16 weeks. That was not my assertion, it was theirs. I'm sorry that you cannot perform simple arithmetic, or read.

It seems quite simple to compare the amount earned vs the time worked.


yrs,
rubato

[The Hen]

And what does it have to do with Canberrans having the highest wages in Australia?

Fergodsake, you embarrass yourself with the highest city in Australia and now you want to debate Norway's wages because you looked like a pillock?

Please don't.

[Gob]

The article said they only worked 16 weeks. That was not my assertion, it was theirs. I'm sorry that you cannot perform simple arithmetic, or read.

It seems quite simple to compare the amount earned vs the time worked.

yrs,
rubato

Did you not think there may be a reason they only work 16 weeks?

Did you not think extrapolating that to American pay and conditions would be so trite as to be meaningless?

But most of all, did you not think that comparing Norwegian Oil rig workers pay to the AVERAGE pay and conditions enjoyed by Canberrans, in a city where the main industry is the provision and support of the infrastructure of Australia's civil service, would make you look, to use a Welsh expression, "a bit twp?"

What sane person would try to draw a comparison between working here;




and



or the wages enjoyed by these



and these;

[rubato]

And what does Norway have to do with Australian wages?

And what do Australian wages have to do with ... anything? If you had not meant them to be compared with others there was really no point in mentioning them, was there? Who gives a fuck? I included Norwegian wages because they put yours into a different perspective. If yours are high, or too high, their are a lot higher and perhaps even more 'too high'. It brings in another dialogue about how much people ought to expect in income and what arguments are introduced to support such ideas.

I mention our household income in comparison to others to illustrate how unfair the tax system is and how much it needs to be changed. In doing so I am giving ourselves as a negative example. The comparison is inherent. And I don't lie and pretend it isn't. The fact is that I am uninterested in the kind of naive cheap boasting you do about Aus. wages. Having lived at both ends of the spectrum I have a better understanding and a better perspective and I can say from first-hand knowledge that income is not related to the things people say it is.

And there is a larger question out there about the value of a human working life. Value and price are not the same although I am quite sure that this will never reach your understanding. You are naive, like mean little children.



yrs,
rubato

[rubato]

Actually I think "mean little children" describes quite a lot of your output.

yrs,
rubato

[The Hen]

I see Rube. you are still hurting because of your stupidity on page one of this thread.

I am sorry I hurt your feelings, but you are nasty when you get embarrassed. THAT is not my fault.

I am also sorry you ruined this thread for me by insisting a local matter had to be made into an international issue.

I will leave you to debate it as it obviously isn't the thread it was going to be any more.

[Gob]

And what does Norway have to do with Australian wages?

And what do Australian wages have to do with ... anything? If you had not meant them to be compared with others there was really no point in mentioning them, was there? Who gives a fuck?

"who gives a fuck" said the man who has contributed the most to the debate.

I included Norwegian wages because I cannot stand to see anyone else happy about their lot.

Fixed that for you.

I mention our household income in comparison to others to illustrate how unfair the tax system is and how much it needs to be changed. In doing so I am giving ourselves as a negative example. The comparison is inherent.

Uumm not, it isn't...

And I don't lie and pretend it isn't.

Where's the lie?

The fact is that I am uninterested in the kind of naive cheap boasting you do about Aus. wages.

32 posts 8 by the retard, or one in four, of course he isn't interested!

And there is a larger question out there about the value of a human working life.

Something you singularly fail to raise.

Value and price are not the same although I am quite sure that this will never reach your understanding. You are naive, like mean little children.

Shall we run a poll on who is perceived here as a mean little child retard? Me or thee?

[rubato]

Lets take a poll.

Then we can see what the numbers say ... about this group?

I'm sorry, did you think it would reflect more than that?

You're mean little children. That is why you create and continue the anti-loca crap. And it is why you created and continued others.

yrs,
rubato

[The Hen]

Rube, if you want to start a thread about how poor done Lo is by me, do it. Don't fuck others up, eh?

Thanks.

[Gob]

Lets take a poll.

Then we can see what the numbers say ... about this group?

I'm sorry, did you think it would reflect more than that?

Of course it would be about this group, who else could we poll, moron.

You're mean little children. That is why you create and continue the anti-loca crap. And it is why you created and continued others.

LOL!! You and her should get together mate, you'd make a fine couple.

[Econoline]

I see Rube. [...] I am sorry I hurt your feelings, but you are nasty when you get embarrassed. THAT is not my fault.

I hope Jim is reading this thread, because I'm going to agree with you here, Hen, and compliment on your insight. That does seem to be the pattern.

(I guess that means that anyone who embarrasses rubato ought to then be prepared to ignore him for the rest of the thread? And that anyone who is targeted with what seems to be unjustified nastiness on the part of rubato ought to consider the possibility that he's just embarrassed?)

P.S. Please don't read too much into this post: there are certainly other situations where rubato gets nasty (including when someone says something that is truly stupid, and for no apparent reason--which may mean he's feeling nasty about something elsewhere in his life), and there is certainly plenty of other nastiness on this board that is started or provoked or continued by others. I just thought it was a good insight on Hen's part, and as long as the thread was already somewhat derailed, I wanted to point it out and compliment her.

[Econoline]

Rube, if you want to start a thread about how poor done Lo is by me, do it. Don't fuck others up, eh?

Thanks.

Better yet, DON'T start a thread--keep it in the "Lo's Inquisition" thread so it doesn't spread further over the board. Thanks.