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Which must mean that Obama did not write a word of it, or you have been replaced by an alien duplicate.
Well Jarl, I've never been one who reflexively criticizes everything Obama does...

I've had plenty to criticize, but I've also given him credit when I thought it was due...
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Queen to attend Margaret Thatcher's funeral

Baroness Thatcher's ceremonial funeral at St Paul's Cathedral will be attended by the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh, Buckingham Palace has confirmed.

The funeral will be held next Wednesday and will be a precedent as it is the first ceremonial funeral for a former British Prime Minister the Queen has ever attended. She attended the state funeral of Winston Churchill.

There are no plans for other members of the Royal family to attend, a spokeswoman for Clarence house added, and the Queen will be acting in her capacity as the head of state.

Lady Thatcher’s body is currently being held in an undisclosed location after it was removed from the Ritz Hotel in the early hours of this morning.

She died from a stroke as she was sat up in bed reading yesterday morning, aged 87.

On Tuesday her coffin will be transferred to the Chapel of St Mary Undercroft in the Palace of Westminster. There will be a short service following its arrival before the coffin rests in the chapel overnight.

Members of the armed services will then line the route of the procession from the Palace of Westminster during the ceremonial funeral, the level granted to the Queen Mother and Lady Diana, with full military honours.

Lady Thatcher specifically did not want a full state funeral, her spokesman Lord Bell said.

Whitehall sources have told the Guardian that she had vetoed the idea as it would require a parliamentary bill to permit public funds to be used and she feared that a it prompt a divisive debate.

Lord Bell has confirmed that she requested that she did not get a fly past by military aircraft as it would be a "waste of money".

"She specifically did not want a state funeral and nor did her family. She particularly did not wish to lie in state as she thought that was not appropriate," he said.

Number 10 has confirmed that a wide range of friends and colleagues would be invited to the service at St Paul's, which would be followed by a private cremation. The funeral itself will be televised.

A Downing Street statement said: "On the day itself, the streets will be cleared of traffic and the coffin will travel by hearse from the Chapel of St Mary Undercroft in the Palace of Westminster to the Church of St Clement Danes, the RAF Chapel, on the Strand.

"At the church the coffin will be transferred to a gun carriage drawn by the King's Troop Royal Artillery. The coffin will then be borne in procession from St Clement Danes to St Paul's Cathedral. The route will be lined by tri-service military personnel."

The route from the Church of St Clement Danes will be lined by personnel from the RAF, Navy and Army before it is met at St Paul's by a guard of honour. Members of the armed services and pensioners of the Royal Hospital Chelsea will line the steps of St Paul's.

Former colleagues, as well as the Prime Minister David Cameron and Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, will be invited.

Flags will be flown at half mast at Downing Street today and tomorrow, and will be again on the day of the funeral.

Downing Street said that Lady Thatcher's family have asked that if people wish to pay their respects, they consider making a donation to the Royal Hospital Chelsea, rather than laying flowers.

The public will be unable to attend the funeral service itself but can line the route of the funeral procession from the RAF Church in the Strand to St Paul's Cathedral.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... neral.html

Daze:

Based on your comments, would it be fair to assume that you will not be amongst those lining the funeral procession route to pay your last respects? 8-)
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I would love to attend. I'll be the one chucking lumps of coal at her coffin.

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Ding Dong the Witch is Dead is now number 27 on the UK iTunes chart.

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I am no fan of Thatcher's but find the celebration surrounding her death most repugnant. Funny, I don't recall scenes like this when she was ousted from power... scenes which would have been much more appropriate back then...

I really hope that for her family's sake there aren't any dickheads planning to disrupt the funeral. I can understand people having little or no respect for her but I would hope that enough common human decency is displayed to have a little respect for those who remember her, not as a Prime Minister, but as their Grandmother.
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Sean wrote:I am no fan of Thatcher's but find the celebration surrounding her death most repugnant. Funny, I don't recall scenes like this when she was ousted from power... scenes which would have been much more appropriate back then...

I really hope that for her family's sake there aren't any dickheads planning to disrupt the funeral. I can understand people having little or no respect for her but I would hope that enough common human decency is displayed to have a little respect for those who remember her, not as a Prime Minister, but as their Grandmother.
Well said Sean...

Anyone who would try to disrupt Lady Thatcher's funeral, (or anyone's funeral) regardless of what they might think of her personally, (and from what I've read, many of those "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead" types weren't even born when she was PM) make themselves to be no better than the Westboro Baptist types ...

They should think again (or maybe for the first time) before they choose that course...
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Perhaps they are receiving instructions from Westboro Baptist?

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Anyone who makes a vulgar protest scene at someone's funeral says more about themselves than they do about their target...
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Never mind them, they're only munchkins...
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Never mind them, they're only munchkins...
Any more bad jokes like that, and somebody's going to douse you with a bucket of water and steal your broom... :P
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The evil that (wo)men do lives after them, the good is oft interred with thier bones.

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I find it interesting that BBC radio consistently refers to her as "Lady Thatcher" while the print version (at least on-line) uses "Baroness Thatcher" more frequently. Is there some reason for the difference?
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Lord Jim wrote:
Never mind them, they're only munchkins...
Any more bad jokes like that, and somebody's going to douse you with a bucket of water and steal your broom... :P
I'm sure I'd never miss the broom (just ask my wife about my housekeeping skills)....but could I have beer instead of that water? :mrgreen:
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Guinevere wrote:I find it interesting that BBC radio consistently refers to her as "Lady Thatcher" while the print version (at least on-line) uses "Baroness Thatcher" more frequently. Is there some reason for the difference?
They have trouble pronouncing words with more than two syllables?
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Lord Jim wrote:
Never mind them, they're only munchkins...
Any more bad jokes like that, and somebody's going to douse you with a bucket of water and steal your broom... :P
I thought it was pretty funny!
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When Mr. Reagan passed away, I don't recall any notable public displays of celebration in this country...

At least not rising to the point that they were noted in the press; (and living where I do, if they had taken place here or even in Berkley, I surely would have noticed)

As much as I detest him, I don't plan to throw a party the day Jimmy Carter shuffles off this mortal coil, or to celebrate his death....

That would be rude, impolite, and unseemly....

I certainly do not wish the Former 39th President Of The United States dead...

I'd be more than happy to settle for "too frail to travel".... 8-)
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I lived through the Carter years and while I consider him one of the worst presidents in my 54 years in this country, he did do a lot of good building houses for people. He went out there and helped. While he may have had speaking gigs to supplant his income, instead he gave of himself. Did Ronny, Bill, George (one and two) go out and give selflessly and forego the bing money speaking engagments and fundraising?
Just saying. IMPO he was a bad President, but a much better MAN afterwards.

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