The West Coast is scenic enough, but there are few places in North America that I'd even consider living outside of the Northeast Corridor -- basically Chicago and Montreal. New Orleans was once on the list, but not since Katrina. Seattle could have been a contender if it had a functional public transit system, but being forced to drive around there is ridiculous. Vancouver is probably the most beautiful city in the hemisphere, but it's a little short on the cultural amenities I like to have at hand. I'd like to see Vienna, as I hear that's a pretty liveable city, and of course I'd move to Paris in a heartbeat if I could. Until then, though, it's Eastern Megalopolis (Downtown) for me.rubato wrote:You need to break inertia and get yerself out to the west coast some time.
Caint spend your whole life wasting away in the north east ossuary.
Dead wine...
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GAH!
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THE WEST IS THE BEST
It's all happening here, it has since the 1960's, and like it or not.............as goes CALIFORNIA.....so goes the nation.
It's all happening here, it has since the 1960's, and like it or not.............as goes CALIFORNIA.....so goes the nation.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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The ride out on I-90 is really pretty cool, once you get past Buffalo, and especially through Minnesota and South Dakota. I can still vividly recall the Mississippi crossing on 90, and then the miles and miles of open prairie. Definitely get there, it is so worth it!oldr_n_wsr wrote:I like the north east. Hunting in Maine, skiing in vermont (knee problems have curtailed that), snowmobiling in the adorondacks, fishing in pennsylvania, beaches on LI (although I am not a beach person I do make it there at least one day a season). And there is Manahattan if one is into that. And there are plenty of vinyards here on LI out east. They tell nme some of the wines are very good. I wouldn't know
Eventually I will make it to the left coast to see what it's about. But I can say that about most of the USA I have not seen/visited yet.
my dad is going to be 82 next year and I hope to go to the Sturgis bike rally with him in 2014. He's in good shape but we'll trailer the bikes as it's a three day ride from here. I don't think I could ride my bike for three days, 8 hours a day.
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Sing it sistahSue U wrote:The West Coast is scenic enough, but there are few places in North America that I'd even consider living outside of the Northeast Corridor -- basically Chicago and Montreal. New Orleans was once on the list, but not since Katrina. Seattle could have been a contender if it had a functional public transit system, but being forced to drive around there is ridiculous. Vancouver is probably the most beautiful city in the hemisphere, but it's a little short on the cultural amenities I like to have at hand. I'd like to see Vienna, as I hear that's a pretty liveable city, and of course I'd move to Paris in a heartbeat if I could. Until then, though, it's Eastern Megalopolis (Downtown) for me.rubato wrote:You need to break inertia and get yerself out to the west coast some time.
Caint spend your whole life wasting away in the north east ossuary.
I'm still trying to figure out how to telecommute from Santa Fe for Jan/Feb/March/April -- basically Christmas to Easter or Patriot's Day (which ever comes first).
Vienna is a lovely easy city, but very expensive. I wouldn't live in Europe and away from my boys until they are grown adults -- but at that point, if I ever retire, there are plenty of places to go. I'm still spending my summers on a New England beach though, no matter what. There is nothing better!!
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It's also crowded, expensive, traffic sucks rocks, roads are generally awful, and the weather sucks about eight months a year. (It REALLY sucked today.)Guinevere wrote:I've motored the Pacific Coast in a little red convertible, and in a bright blue jeep, both top-down experiences.rubato wrote:You need to break inertia and get yerself out to the west coast some time.
Caint spend your whole life wasting away in the north east ossuary.
Didn't you buy that Volvo convertible? The pacific coast was made for top-down motoring.
Yrs,
Rbato
As for New England -- its God's country and one of the most beautiful regions on the planet, as well as one of the most educated and one of the most progressive. Hardly an ossuary.
I need to move to Texas.
Treat Gaza like Carthage.
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Guinevere wrote: I've motored the Pacific Coast in a little red convertible, and in a bright blue jeep, both top-down experiences.
Well you are not Lucy Jordan in that case...
Love that version....
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Another song written by Shel Silverstein and originally performed by Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show.
(Ha! Beat ya to it, rubato!)

(Ha! Beat ya to it, rubato!)
People who are wrong are just as sure they're right as people who are right. The only difference is, they're wrong.
— God @The Tweet of God
— God @The Tweet of God
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John Keegan describes the U.S. east coast as having the worst weather in the world.Guinevere wrote:...
I've motored the Pacific Coast in a little red convertible, and in a bright blue jeep, both top-down experiences.
As for New England -- its God's country and one of the most beautiful regions on the planet, as well as one of the most educated and one of the most progressive. Hardly an ossuary.
yrs,
rubato
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Hahahahahahaha, A Brit, suggesting that some place other than his foggy cold isle has awful weather. Ironic, that.rubato wrote:John Keegan describes the U.S. east coast as having the worst weather in the world.Guinevere wrote:...
I've motored the Pacific Coast in a little red convertible, and in a bright blue jeep, both top-down experiences.
As for New England -- its God's country and one of the most beautiful regions on the planet, as well as one of the most educated and one of the most progressive. Hardly an ossuary.
yrs,
rubato
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
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We have a thing called "seasons" here. Don't like it hot, stick around a few months and it will get colder. Don't like it cold, stick around a few months and it will get warmer. In fall the trees turn more colors than one can imagine. In the winter the fresh snow on a moon lit night is very calming. In spring there is the rebirth of the plants and animals as everyone shakes off the winter doldrums and enjoys the wamrer weather ane the renewal of spirits. And the summer is warm with people enjoying the beaches and the lakes and outdoor fun.
Sure there is bad weather sometimes, but there is plenty of good weather too (moreso if you ask me).
Sure there is bad weather sometimes, but there is plenty of good weather too (moreso if you ask me).
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From oldrn in a different thread:Guinevere wrote:Hahahahahahaha, A Brit, suggesting that some place other than his foggy cold isle has awful weather. Ironic, that.rubato wrote:John Keegan describes the U.S. east coast as having the worst weather in the world.Guinevere wrote:...
I've motored the Pacific Coast in a little red convertible, and in a bright blue jeep, both top-down experiences.
As for New England -- its God's country and one of the most beautiful regions on the planet, as well as one of the most educated and one of the most progressive. Hardly an ossuary.
yrs,
rubato
100F and 100% humidity is hell.I cooked lobster tails on the grill saturday. They came out perfect. It was a little unbearable outside, 100F with 100% humidity, but I braved it and my wife and I had a great dinner.
Keegan is right.
yrs,
rubato
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No, hell is other people.rubato wrote:100F and 100% humidity is hell.
Saturday, while oldr was grilling lobster, we went to the pool for the afternoon and then grilled burgers and corn for dinner. It was great. It's summer. Playing hooky and going down the shore tomorrow, I think. A day on the beach will be nice.
GAH!
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I'm a lot more accepting of other people when its 72F and 69% humidity, (like right now) personally.
I'm baking some spiced chicken for my sweetie for dinner since I'm back out of town again tomorrow.
yrs,
rubato
I'm baking some spiced chicken for my sweetie for dinner since I'm back out of town again tomorrow.
yrs,
rubato
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At least in the West when it is 100F......it's a dry heat. Not that muggy, bug-inducing slop that my parents ran from 70 years ago. 
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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Hey hey hey, some of us still call that muggy bug-inducing slop home...
Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is
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Sorry, Rick..........no offense.
The prunes haven't kicked in yet.
The prunes haven't kicked in yet.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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I was in my pool before grilling the lobsters. No hooky though, but then again, I'm not much of a beach person.Sue U wrote:No, hell is other people.rubato wrote:100F and 100% humidity is hell.
Saturday, while oldr was grilling lobster, we went to the pool for the afternoon and then grilled burgers and corn for dinner. It was great. It's summer. Playing hooky and going down the shore tomorrow, I think. A day on the beach will be nice.
So's a blowtorch.......it's a dry heat.
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I'm sorry, but I've heard that so many times and it's just bullshit. When I was in Las Vegas a couple of years ago visiting a friend, and in Phoenix a couple of decades previous, and you can't get much drier than either of those, more than a few minutes in the afternoon sun and I felt like someone was microwaving my head.dales wrote:At least in the West when it is 100F......it's a dry heat.
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That's because they were (area 51 secret government experiments attempts to render homosexuals sterile so they won't reproduce... Hey what's with those black helicopters and the UFOs oh my god the POLES!!!!!!!......
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Dry heat beats hot and muggy hands down each and every time.
I've lived in both and I'll take the desert heat of 90F over a Midwestern/Eastern 90F high humidity day every damned time!
Who wants their clothes sticking to them and bugs all over the godammed place?
I've lived in both and I'll take the desert heat of 90F over a Midwestern/Eastern 90F high humidity day every damned time!
Who wants their clothes sticking to them and bugs all over the godammed place?
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato