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I've never 'weaseled' out of any commitment in my life, LJ - and $100 is pocket change to me these days.

I certainly hope you aren't planning to post sophomoric crap like that repeatedly for the remainder of the campaign season; if you do you'll just go on my 'foes' list and you won't have the pleasure of my participation in your audience here, which is ok by me.

But really, grow up already? :roll:
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sophomoric crap
bigskygal wrote:I'm sorry you're unhappy LJ.

But they times they are a'changin, and they'll be changing a lot more before you die - if you're lucky and stay healthy and eat your veggies like Lady Kelly asks you to.

I'd recommend accepting that the meek and brown are going to be running this country more and more with every passing year . . . especially considering the platform positions and public statements of your party's candidates, I don't think I'll live to ever see another from your party in the driver's seat. :ok
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bigskygal wrote:Yay! Although the country has been changing now quite rapidly for years . . . SCOTUS just made it official and caught up the narrow-minded idiots in intolerant states' governments with the will of the peeps.
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That's not sophomoric and it's no personal attack on your character, either. It's simply the truth of what's happening in our country.

I'm sorry you're so unhappy LJ, but it is what it is. Getoveritalready. :roll:
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Yes the country changed - but not much.

The Constitution has yet again been diminished to the level of nothing more than a list of suggestions, able to be manipulated or supplemented at the will of five un-elected lawyers, leaving very little recourse for any democratic correction.

There is nothing the Constitution that even remotely gives the Federal government the right to define "marriage," or to create new rights unimaginable to the people who wrote and ratified the Constitution or any of its Amendments.

The real pity is that there is no provision to impeach a USSC justice who blatantly violates her oath of office.

And I say this as one who has no problem whatsoever with any state defining marriage in any way it wants - through the democratic processes defined in their state Constitutions.

But this is bullshit. Outrageous. Anyone who claims to respect the U.S. Constitution and is not in mourning now is a liar and a fraud.

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It might help to look at it this way: the Supreme Court (in exactly the same reasoning as Loving v. Virginia) did not define marriage but rather prohibited the states from defining marriage in a discriminatory manner. (And FWIW, the process for impeaching/removing a Supreme Court justice is exactly the same as that for a POTUS.)
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I've picked out an avatar for dgs49...

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God your system is slow!!!
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Hopefully there'll be no more need for the avalanche of homosexuals get married stories. That will be a vast improvement.
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:ok From now on, it's not "same-sex marriage" or "gay marriage" or "homosexual marriage"; it's just "marriage".

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:ok
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dgs49 wrote:there is no provision to impeach a USSC justice
For anyone who still believes Dave's bullshit about going to law school, I have some prime waterfront property in the Mojave Desert to sell you.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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liberty wrote:To some people one can have a greater organism if one partner is dying in the process.
Apparently someone has been doing a lot of research into the mechanics of organisms. :mron
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Scooter wrote:
dgs49 wrote:there is no provision to impeach a USSC justice
For anyone who still believes Dave's bullshit about going to law school, I have some prime waterfront property in the Mojave Desert to sell you.
I have to admit that was a pretty flagrant mistake; especially for a fellow who prides himself on knowing the Constitution so well that he knows exactly what it does and does not permit... :?
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Scooter wrote:
dgs49 wrote:there is no provision to impeach a USSC justice
For anyone who still believes Dave's bullshit about going to law school, I have some prime waterfront property in the Mojave Desert to sell you.
FWIW, one USSC justice was impeached, Samuel Chase in 1805, although he was ultimately acquitted and remained in office after the trial by the senate. And lower level federal judges have been impeached and removed from office. Impeachment is not a common procedure (nor should it be) bur supreme court justices are no more immune to it than other federal officials.

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There is justice -- peach mint tea takes work, though.

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In addition to Samuel Chase, and as Big RR pointed out:
lower level federal judges have been impeached and removed from office.
Most recently the Honorable Alcee Hastings: (I say "Honorable" because he's still a member of the United States House Of Representatives:)
Alcee Lamar Hastings (born September 5, 1936) is the U.S. Representative for Florida's 20th congressional district, serving in Congress since 1993. He is a member of the Democratic Party. He served as a judge on the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida from 1979, until his impeachment from that post in 1989

In 1977, he became a judge of the circuit court of Broward County, Florida. In 1979, he was appointed by President Jimmy Carter as a U.S. district judge for the Southern District of Florida.

In 1981, Hastings was charged with accepting a $150,000 bribe in exchange for a lenient sentence and a return of seized assets for 21 counts of racketeering by Frank and Thomas Romano, and of perjury in his testimony about the case. In 1983, he was acquitted by a jury after his alleged co-conspirator, William Borders, refused to testify in court, resulting in a jail sentence for Borders.[2]

In 1988, the Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives took up the case, and Hastings was impeached for bribery and perjury by a vote of 413-3. He was then convicted in 1989 by the United States Senate becoming the sixth federal judge in the history of the United States to be removed from office by the Senate. The Senate, in two hours of roll calls, voted on 11 of the 17 articles of impeachment. It convicted Hastings of eight of the 11 articles. The vote on the first article was 69 for and 26 opposed.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcee_Hastings

A career Marion Barry could love...

And then of course there was the semi-serious but mostly political effort to impeach Earl Warren, back in the late 60's...

When then Republican House Leader Gerald Ford famously observed, "An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history"...

(That was accurate, but those words later came back to haunt him with the press when he served as Dick Nixon's VP... 8-) )

Dave is a little older than me, so you would think he would remember the whole Earl Warren thing...
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:ok :lol:
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