Now that's what you call a bitch!!!!

[oldr_n_wsr]

Alice wrote

that would make me, in your eyes, lazy, self-absorbed, and greedy (in its finest form).

Having known alice for quite a few years this is a totally incorrect statement. If anything she is one of the most giving persons I know, especially to her children (and not in the "spoiling" way).

I can only wish she could be "righted" for all the wrongs done

[Andrew D]

Why would he not want to share his newfound largess with his beloved daughter? Yeah, it burns his ass he has to do that through her mother.

That assumes that the money that goes to the mother will end up being used for the benefit of the daughter. An assumption which all too often is not borne out by reality.

He should have thought of that before knocking her up in the first place. I get so damned sick of family law and the endless bitching of former lovers/spouses. You roll the dice by procreating with someone - you pay the piper if it doesn't work out. Pretty simple.

Except, of course, that after conception, the woman had all the rights, and the man had none. But other than that fundamental, avoidable, and inexcusable unfairness ....

[Sean]

Alice wrote

that would make me, in your eyes, lazy, self-absorbed, and greedy (in its finest form).

Having known alice for quite a few years this is a totally incorrect statement. If anything she is one of the most giving persons I know, especially to her children (and not in the "spoiling" way).

I can only wish she could be "righted" for all the wrongs done

Hey oldr.
Nobody accused (nor would accuse) Alice of any of those things. Those statements were all made about the woman in the article.

[oldr_n_wsr]

My bad.
Apologies to all.

[Scooter]

You have nothing to apologize for. Those who say they are not accusing alice are being disingenous, because they are criticizing the woman in the story for nothing more than what alice has said she would have done in her place.

[oldr_n_wsr]

It could be taken that way, but after I re-read the thread, it could be taken the other way too.

I still stand by what I said about alice but the quote before was her talking not another poster making accusations about her.

[Sean]

You have nothing to apologize for. Those who say they are not accusing alice are being disingenous, because they are criticizing the woman in the story for nothing more than what alice has said she would have done in her place.

Nope Scoot, try reading the thread again. It was Alice who compared herself to the woman and nobody else. Nobody commented on Alice's personal situation.

[Scooter]

I got that, Sean, which is precisely why I made the comment. No one is prepared to condemn alice for saying she would have gone after the money, because we all (more or less) have some sense of her and are fairly certain that she's not a grasping, spiteful bitch. And yet for that very same desire for some of the money, some here had no problem rushing to condemn the ex-Mrs. Page.

There is simply no factual basis for judging one differently than the other. If you're not prepared to condemn alice, that just might be a hint that you shouldn't be so quick to condemn the ex-Mrs. Page, at least without hearing an account of the situation that isn't so obviously skewed.

[alice]

I got that, Sean, which is precisely why I made the comment. No one is prepared to condemn alice for saying she would have gone after the money, because we all (more or less) have some sense of her and are fairly certain that she's not a grasping, spiteful bitch. And yet for that very same desire for some of the money, some here had no problem rushing to condemn the ex-Mrs. Page.

There is simply no factual basis for judging one differently than the other. If you're not prepared to condemn alice, that just might be a hint that you shouldn't be so quick to condemn the ex-Mrs. Page, at least without hearing an account of the situation that isn't so obviously skewed

Thank you Scooter.
That's the point I was trying to make.

I wasn't trying to put myself up as the shining light for the 'other side', but just trying to illustrate that there is always 'another side'.
And even for my own story, as I said somewhere in my previous rant, people were still only hearing 'my side', and therefore it's still a biased version of events . (although, of course, my side is 'right'!!!! )

I think the one version that was presented throughout all the media outlets very obviously went out of its way to present one 'side', and that was 'side' presented from an extremely sympathetic and emotional angle. It was 'one eyed' reporting, and very deliberately written in a way guaranteed to evoke the type of emotions and response that it got here.

Even when it was acknowledged that her 'side' had not been heard, the comments that were made in response continued to very much assume that she was 'at fault', a greedy and selfish bitch, and her 'side' would be 'not appealing'.

I just felt that people were being very, very judgemental. But from the continued responses, I don't think the majority really wants to be anything else, on an issue like this.

So this is probably one of those issues where people just agree to disagree and maintain the stance they want to keep.

Group hug... ... and yes, I've discovered the smilies....

oldr_n_wsr

Having known alice for quite a few years this is a totally incorrect statement. If anything she is one of the most giving persons I know, especially to her children (and not in the "spoiling" way).

I can only wish she could be "righted" for all the wrongs done

Thank you so much. I was really, really touched when I read that.
I appreciate you coming to my defence here.
And I can't ever adequately put into words how grateful I've been for your wise counsel and support over these years.



BTW: I didn't mean to create a controversy and then disappear. I was off work a couple of days the other week with the 'flu' and had more spare time to sit at the computer and get involved. I can't usually post from my work and usually 'visit' late in the evening when I'm often too tired to post anything. I'm off today (not 'flu' related - yayyy!!) so finally got a chance to add something.