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[MajGenl.Meade]

They can be so flexible, when they want to.
yrs,
rubato

You really are a provocateur. We are not "flexible" as you mean it. We are relying upon Jesus who came to fulfill the law. He called for a higher law than kill for this sin or that sin. So why not get used to the facts and stop pretending you don't know?

[rubato]

They can be so flexible, when they want to.
yrs,
rubato

You really are a provocateur. We are not "flexible" as you mean it. We are relying upon Jesus who came to fulfill the law. He called for a higher law than kill for this sin or that sin. So why not get used to the facts and stop pretending you don't know?

You are so carefully selective about what parts of the OT you can now ignore.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

That does not appear to say that it can now all be ignored at your convenience. It reaffirms their importance.

If I am a provocateur it is only for people to be what they say they are.

yrs,
rubato

[MajGenl.Meade]

That's a reasonable comment, thank you. I'll provide the full quote:

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven"

Central to understanding is that there were three "types" of law; the moral, the ceremonial and the judicial. (Others may argue for some further sub-divisions).

Jesus preaches that he has not come to overthrow the Law. Very sensible of him. It will not change at all until "it is accomplished". What does he mean by "it"? He means his fulfillment of all the law. Did that happen and when? It happened on the cross and he said, "It is finished (accomplished)". Traditional (and not "new") Christianity holds that Jesus fulfilled all of the requirements of the moral law.

The ceremonial laws (what to wear, when, what kind of sacrifice, etc) were adapted many times before Christianity - the scribes and the Pharisees among others created reams of laws as were needed. Jesus of course DID challenge their understanding of laws (their commentaries etc).

For example, the moral law of keeping the Sabbath holy had been surrounded by a penumbra of ceremonial and judicial regulation. Therefore he taught that for his disciples to glean grain to eat on the Sabbath was no contravention of God's law - although it offended man's laws. He reduced the judicial law of stoning an adulteress to a new moral law; stones should be cast only by those without sin (back to this "more righteous than the scribes and pharisees" again).

"Unless you are more righteous than the scribes and Pharisees" he says, "no soup for you!". But he knows full well that none are righteous; that only he can fulfill the Mosaic law of purity and righteousness. By fulfilling it, he opens the way for the unrighteous to be saved. Yet he taught a radically different understanding of the law which, to those scribes and pharisees (and apparently rubato?), appeared blasphemous.

What then of jots and tittles? He did not "change" the law. He identified the law and himself as the fulfillment of the law. He dealt with the moral law of God - not the judicial and ceremonial laws of man. His view of God's law was higher than simplistic adherence to arcane custom.

Now, this is not me picking and choosing what I like. Jesus said it and he did it. It's true. I believe it.