Free jailhouse tatts

[loCAtek]

Nothing changed, you just agree with me now. Glad I could clear up why Prison Guards had such an influence in halting tattooing programs.

If you'll notice in the OP the Australian version The CPSU, prison's guards and their union, are doing the same thing.

[Scooter]

Yes, I understand, you have changed your position. No need to thank me for finally penetrating your drunken stupor.

[loCAtek]

Nope, I'm agreeing with the Australian Community and Public Sector Union (CPSU), of prison's guards in Canberra, who are doing the same thing. It's all in the OP.

[Scooter]

So you're against measures proven to reduce disease transmission in prison. How very logical and compassionate of you.

[Scooter]

Nothing changed, you just agree with me now. Glad I could clear up why Prison Guards had such an influence in halting tattooing programs.

If you'll notice in the OP the Australian version The CPSU, prison's guards and their union, are doing the same thing.

BTW, could you please point out where in the OP it says that the CPSU is trying to halt tattooing programs?

Watch - she just doesn't have it in her to admit that she mistook opposition to needle exchanges for opposition to safe tattooing in the OP.

[loCAtek]

My only personal view was that I didn't think US prisoners would go for it, since the gang symbols etc. wouldn't be allowed. Other than that, I'm just posting the UCCO's involvement as it was reported on their website. Please, don't go into a tail chasing frenzy, saying that implies I condone ...oh nevermind, you chased your tail anyway.

Nothing changed, you just agree with me now. Glad I could clear up why Prison Guards had such an influence in halting tattooing programs.

If you'll notice in the OP the Australian version The CPSU, prison's guards and their union, are doing the same thing.

BTW, could you please point out where in the OP it says that the CPSU is trying to halt tattooing programs?

My bad, since we agree that Canadian needle exchange in prisons, demonstrate why Prison Guards have such an influence in halting tattooing programs; we can see it's because of their Union. Which is how the CPSU influenced their needle exchange program, because of their union;

The Canberra Times 15 March 2008
Needle exchange not on in new jail
By Cathy Alexander
Inmates at Canberra's new jail will be given bleach to wash their syringes but there
will be no needle exchange for drug users.
The ACT Government confirmed in its health services plan for the Hume prison,
released yesterday, that it would not allow a needle exchange.
Inmates will get free condoms, at least one dental check-up a year, and may get to use
tattooing equipment. The plan called for more investigation into providing the
equipment; prisoners might even be trained on how to use it.
The decision not to allow a needle exchange has pleased corrections officers, but
health groups are disappointed.
The plan presented NSW evidence of high levels of hepatitis C infection and drug use
among prisoners. Among female inmates. 64 per cent had hepatitis C, along with 40
per cent of male inmates, while 84 per cent of females and 80 per cent of males used
illicit drugs.
Health Minister Katy Gallagher said the new jail, which is human rights-compliant
and due to open this year, would not have a needle exchange because it should start
from the position of preventing drug use.
The policy would be reviewed after 12 to 18 months to see if an exchange was
needed.
Health workers would collect data on drug use and infections. The 200 inmates
would have to take part in urine testing for illicit drugs.
Ms Gallagher said bleach was an effective way of preventing the transmission of
infections through needles. Some opposed it, because they were concerned about its
possible misuse, but the Government would monitor safety issues.
Liberal leader Zed Seselja said giving inmates bleach to clean needles was "a clear
admission of defeat from day one".
He said Labor appeared split on the issue of drugs, with the Labor Left keen to bring
in a needle exchange in the future.
Vince McDevitt, regional director of the ACT branch of the CPSU, which represents
correctional officers, welcomed the decision not to have a needle exchange, but said
he was not sure providing bleach to clean needles sent the right message

[Gob]

Watch - she just doesn't have it in her to admit that she mistook opposition to needle exchanges for opposition to safe tattooing in the OP.

Why should she? It really doesn't matter to her what she says as long as someone responds to her, it validates whatever squalid miniscule existence she has. She would argue that the moon is made of blue cheese if she thought someone would bother replying.

She’s probably frigging herself at the thought a gay Canadian male noticing that she exists.

Look at her recent record, "paedophile priests are a “myth"", "harming squirrels is fun and the squirrels enjoy it", "lying to AIDs patients is good for them", all posted purely and specifically to try to get some attention. If that’s not the working of a sick mind, what is?

(Oh and she's no more an alcoholic than you or I, it's just another attention seeking device.).

She’s probably close to orgasm at the thought of my posting about her, despite the fact that if it were not for you, I’d never have to read her stupid words.

She’ll be calling me a control freak or something again soon.

She’s a waste of space, why do you bother, easily amused?

[Scooter]

I like proving how psychic I am, since once again I completely predicted her* response. I should really play the ponies.




*although, in her case, her reactions are so predictably pavlovian that I have an unfair advantage

[loCAtek]

the whole quote acknowledges it was the the CSC's decsion;

So being invited to observe similar programs in other countries = being the ones who decide whether it will happen here?

Yes LOL

Although the utility of needle exchange as a harm reduction measure is supported by Canada’s Drug Strategy as a way to slow the spread of HIV that “in no way (leads) to an increase in drug use”88, needle exchange in prison is troubling to many. For some, the idea of providing the equipment necessary to engage in illegal activity within correctional institutions is fundamentally at odds with a mandate to prohibit and reform criminal behaviour. The Commissioner of the Correctional Service of Canada CSC recently recognized the Services’s obligation to make harm reduction measures available that are in keeping with community health standards.89 However, concerned that a needle exchange program might compromise its zero-tolerance policy, increase drug use and threaten institutional safety,90 the Correctional Service of Canada has not to date taken steps to implement a pilot needle exchange program.

Canadian Human Rights Commission Last Updated: 2011-09-16

Uniformed Correctional Officers employed by CSC are unionized with and supported by the Union of Canadian Correctional Officers (UCCO)

This was after I had explained that the UCCO roll was as fact-finders in this mission.

[Scooter]

She's lost the plot again. That's what comes of not waiting to sleep it off.

[Rick]

Whatcha tryin ta prove Scoot?

Ya bring nothin new to the table.

You were the one that introduced needle exchange BTW.

Give it a rest yer startin to look like a goof...

[Scooter]

And what are you bringing to the table, other than "I don't like it so there should be no attempt to prevent disease and save money"?

[Rick]

I understand that, you've repeated over and over and over.

Talk about being predictable.

Hey I got an idea why don't ya sneak some in, come on do yer part to reduce costs...

[Scooter]

Sneak some what in?

If you are talking about drugs, prisoners who are looking for it are going to find it, and there is nothing that prison administration can do to even slow it down. So one can choose to either deal with the reality of that situation, or not.

[Rick]

Now who can't stay on topic?

Keep on with bustin on free range chica.

But if that's all ya got...

[Scooter]

Ok, if you don't want to explain what you mean, nothing I can do about that.

[Rick]

OK ya be obtuse if you wish, funny how that can work for you isn't it.

[Scooter]

Obtuse about what? What is it that you are suggesting I "sneak in"?

[Rick]

Can you not keep track of what you have posted?

If not how are you any better than the one you are busting on?

Go back and read yer posts, reread the part where you are so worried about having to spend extra money on a cure when prevention via a needle exchange would be some much better.

You don't remember giving someone else grief about this although it was never part of the OP.

Quit being such a little kid, who cares if someone (if they even are) is posting under the influence I'm sure they are not the 1st and won't be the last.

As far as I can tell LO is the only one that cares enough about the subject to discuss it with you at all...

[Scooter]

So you're suggesting I sneak in needles? What good would that do? They would quickly be used and contaminated just like the works of various types that are now being passed around from prisoner to prisoner. Whereas access to fresh needles every time and proper disposal of used ones (via a needle exchange) would pretty much eliminate the demand for used works.