Should Jackson lose his place of honor?
Should Jackson lose his place of honor?
I recently heard on NPR that there is a possibility that Jackson may lose his place of honor on the twenty dollar bill and be replaced by a woman. Now I love women, but I am not in favor of changing the tradition of honoring the founders with their portraits on the common bills, notes one to a hundred. Well now Jackson really was not a founder of our nation, but he did stand up to the British army during the revolution and got a beating for it and he was one of the founders of the Democrat party. He also was one of our greatest presidents.
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Re: Should Jackson lose his place of honor?
If you are determined get rid of someone, let it be Grant; he was neither a founder or a great president.
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.
Re: Should Jackson lose his place of honor?
If you are determined get rid of someone, let it be Grant; he was neither a founder or a great president.
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.
Re: Should Jackson lose his place of honor?
If you are determined to get rid of someone, let it be Grant; he was neither a founder or a great president.
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.
Re: Should Jackson lose his place of honor?
Jackson was an Indian-killer and an embarrassment to the presidency in many ways - definitely not so deserving of being on a $20 bill as any of the women proposed to take his place.
It's pretty disgusting that beyond a couple of novelty coins that never caught on in common usage, we have none of our founding mothers or finest women citizens on our currency.
The poll is stupid because duh.
It's pretty disgusting that beyond a couple of novelty coins that never caught on in common usage, we have none of our founding mothers or finest women citizens on our currency.
The poll is stupid because duh.
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Re: Should Jackson lose his place of honor?
Are you saying I would use push poll tactics and make them so flagrant and obvious that anyone could see it?bigskygal wrote:Jackson was an Indian-killer and an embarrassment to the presidency in many ways - definitely not so deserving of being on a $20 bill as any of the women proposed to take his place.
It's pretty disgusting that beyond a couple of novelty coins that never caught on in common usage, we have none of our founding mothers or finest women citizens on our currency.
The poll is stupid because duh.
Hey, there is the see comments option and don‘t take this stuff too serious it all in fun.
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Re: Should Jackson lose his place of honor?
Perhaps one day, long after the first woman president is dead and the Democrat and Republican parties are no longer important (who cares about Whigs these days?), they can put that dead lady president on a bill.
In the meantime, for whatever reason and of course it's because women have been disenfranchised/held back/not allowed etc., etc., there haven't been any women in positions of national leadership of sufficient importance to be memorialized on a bank note.
That doesn't mean there haven't been brave and important women in USian history - just not of sufficient national leadership significance
FWIW I don't care if Jackson stays or goes. (And let's face it, Grant isn't there because he was a good president but because he was the key Union general in suppressing the War of the Rebellion).
In the meantime, for whatever reason and of course it's because women have been disenfranchised/held back/not allowed etc., etc., there haven't been any women in positions of national leadership of sufficient importance to be memorialized on a bank note.
That doesn't mean there haven't been brave and important women in USian history - just not of sufficient national leadership significance
FWIW I don't care if Jackson stays or goes. (And let's face it, Grant isn't there because he was a good president but because he was the key Union general in suppressing the War of the Rebellion).
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
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I would like to see dr king on a bill. harriet tubman would be ok too, I always favor the local folks (see Preakness thread) both fought for liberty
...as far as Jackson, we may as well leave the bastard be. liberty goes a step too far in calling him great. effective maybe. I have a biography on him that I should read, but my arms are too short.
war is one thing, the slaughter of women and children is another....
... Eleanor could be on the three dollar bill!
...as far as Jackson, we may as well leave the bastard be. liberty goes a step too far in calling him great. effective maybe. I have a biography on him that I should read, but my arms are too short.
war is one thing, the slaughter of women and children is another....
... Eleanor could be on the three dollar bill!
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Gee Lib judging by how many times you said it, you must dislike Grant almost as much as you dislike Puerto Rico...
BTW Lib, Jackson wasn't a "Founder". He was never a member of The Continental Congress, and he had no hand in the Constitution nor was he a signer of the Declaration of Independence. He was part of the next generation.
BTW Lib, Jackson wasn't a "Founder". He was never a member of The Continental Congress, and he had no hand in the Constitution nor was he a signer of the Declaration of Independence. He was part of the next generation.



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I bet Lib's glad you took all that trouble to correct him...liberty wrote: Well now Jackson really was not a founder of our nation, but .....
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
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The SB Anthony and Sacagawea (sp?) coins would have been successful if they had dumped the 1$ bill as they ought to now.bigskygal wrote:Jackson was an Indian-killer and an embarrassment to the presidency in many ways - definitely not so deserving of being on a $20 bill as any of the women proposed to take his place.
It's pretty disgusting that beyond a couple of novelty coins that never caught on in common usage, we have none of our founding mothers or finest women citizens on our currency.
The poll is stupid because duh.
I'm looking forward to seeing Victoria Woodhull on a bill. Now there was a colorful character.
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Re: Should Jackson lose his place of honor?
How much more colorful does a man have to be? He killed a man over his wife’s honor and defied a SC order and got away with it.rubato wrote:The SB Anthony and Sacagawea (sp?) coins would have been successful if they had dumped the 1$ bill as they ought to now.bigskygal wrote:Jackson was an Indian-killer and an embarrassment to the presidency in many ways - definitely not so deserving of being on a $20 bill as any of the women proposed to take his place.
It's pretty disgusting that beyond a couple of novelty coins that never caught on in common usage, we have none of our founding mothers or finest women citizens on our currency.
The poll is stupid because duh.
I'm looking forward to seeing Victoria Woodhull on a bill. Now there was a colorful character.
yrs,
rubato
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.
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I have nothing against Puerto Rico; I just don’t think we should continue to let them use us with out a ring and a commitment. We can’t really blame them ;why should they buy the cow when they can get the milk free. What are we a nation of whores, we have no self respect?Lord Jim wrote:Gee Lib judging by how many times you said it, you must dislike Grant almost as much as you dislike Puerto Rico...![]()
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Re: Should Jackson lose his place of honor?
We should replace Jackson on the $20.00 bill with Elvis Presley.
Better to memorialize a king than a redskin killer....
Better to memorialize a king than a redskin killer....
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Re: Should Jackson lose his place of honor?
Washington was a brutal slaveholder. Lincoln conscripted soldiers and suspended habeas corpus -- not to mention prosecuting the bloodiest war in human history. Hamilton -- never a President -- was perhaps the most polarizing political figure in all of American history, ratcheting up factionalism and promoting his view of an authoritarian central government with expansive powers. Jackson was infamous for his defiance of the Supreme Court and the horrors of the Trail of Tears. Grant was an objectively terrible President whose administration was notoriously corrupt and under whom the nation's economy virtually collapsed.
(I can't think of anything bad to say about Ben Franklin off the top of my head.)
The fact is, if you're only going to put paragons of virtue on your currency, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone worthy of being on it. And why do we have to have pictures of people on it anyway?
(I can't think of anything bad to say about Ben Franklin off the top of my head.)
The fact is, if you're only going to put paragons of virtue on your currency, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone worthy of being on it. And why do we have to have pictures of people on it anyway?
GAH!
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I think that you are either referring to the Battle of Horse Shoe Bend or the Trail of Tears, both were exacerbated by his personality. Once he got his back up, it was hard for him to come down. A story goes that after his death, some of his slaves were arguing whether he would go to heaven or hell. An old slave woman knew him well spoke up and said, if the general wants to go to heaven who is going to tell him he can’t.wesw wrote: war is one thing, the slaughter of women and children is another....
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.
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look, I don t want to take him off the 20, I think we should honor the truth and leave it be, but don t bother making excuses for him. he was a beast.
believe me, I know about rage, I don t make excuses for my own past, I face the fact that I was a beast. you can find a better hero.
dr king on the 1000 dollar bill would be great. harriet tubman on the ten thousand, and all will be good
believe me, I know about rage, I don t make excuses for my own past, I face the fact that I was a beast. you can find a better hero.
dr king on the 1000 dollar bill would be great. harriet tubman on the ten thousand, and all will be good
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I was thinking the same thing.And why do we have to have pictures of people on it anyway?
Nature in all its glory and even some of it's wrath (hurricanes, tornados, etc) would be my choice.
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Sue
Franklin was a notorious womanizer.
Franklin was a notorious womanizer.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.