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[MajGenl.Meade]

'Wow!': Rivals mock Hillary Clinton's sudden trade 'reversal'

Clinton's Wednesday announcement that she opposes the Trans-Pacific Partnership prompted an immediate response from several of her Democratic rivals in the presidential race.

"Wow! That's a reversal!" the rival, former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley (D), said in a statement. [bright lad eh?]

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont), meanwhile, reportedly said he would "let the American people decide" whether Clinton had credibility on the issue.

When Clinton served in President Barack Obama's administration, she used to extensively praise the Pacific trade deal. Indeed, CNN once counted up 45 times she pushed the agreement.

But after she launched her presidential campaign this year, Clinton started hedging and saying she needed more information to conclude decisively one way or the other.

During a Wednesday interview on PBS' "NewsHour," Clinton said the more she learned about the deal, the more reservations she had developed.

"I have been trying to learn as much as I can about the agreement. But I'm worried. I'm worried about currency manipulation not being part of the agreement," she said. "We've learned a lot about trade agreements in the past years. Sometimes they look great on paper."

O'Malley, however, suggested that Clinton's position shifted because her first 2016 debate is next week.

"I believe we need to stop stumbling backwards into bad deals. Secretary Clinton can justify her own reversal of opinion on this, but I didn't have one opinion 8 months ago and switch that opinion on the eve of debates," O'Malley's statement continued. "I'm against the Trans Pacific Partnership. I let people know that from the outset."

Sanders, who has surged in Democratic primary polls, has also made opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership a central part of his agenda.

Clinton's full statement on the trade agreement is below:

I'm continuing to learn about the details of the new Trans-Pacific Partnership, including looking hard at what's in there to crack down on currency manipulation, which kills American jobs, and to make sure we're not putting the interests of drug companies ahead of patients and consumers. But based on what I know so far, I can't support this agreement.

As I have said many times, we need to be sure that new trade deals meet clear tests: They have to create good American jobs, raise wages, and advance our national security. The bar has to be set very high for two reasons.

First, too often over the years we haven't gotten the balance right on trade. We've seen that even a strong deal can fall short on delivering the promised benefits. So I don't believe we can afford to keep giving new agreements the benefit of the doubt. The risks are too high that, despite our best efforts, they will end up doing more harm than good for hard-working American families whose paychecks have barely budged in years.

Second, we can't look at this in a vacuum. Years of Republican obstruction at home have weakened U.S. competitiveness and made it harder for Americans who lose jobs and pay because of trade to get back on their feet. Republicans have blocked the investments that we need and that President Obama has proposed in infrastructure, education, clean energy, and innovation. They've refused to raise the minimum wage or defend workers' rights or adequately fund job training.

As a result, America is less competitive than we should be. Workers have fewer protections, the potential positive effects of trade are diminished, and the negative effects are exacerbated. We're going into this with one arm tied behind our backs.

I still believe in the goal of a strong and fair trade agreement in the Pacific as part of a broader strategy both at home and abroad, just as I did when I was Secretary of State. I appreciate the hard work that President Obama and his team put into this process and recognize the strides they made. But the bar here is very high and, based on what I have seen, I don't believe this agreement has met it...... (cont. on page Ninety Bore)

Governor Obama is pissed - waving bloody steaks under Biden's nose - wewease Joe and Wodger and Bwian!

[wesw]

I can t see how Obama can throw hill-lie-ry under the bus without getting tread marks on his own back.

they were eating from the same can of worms, he can t really call her wormtongue, can he?

[rubato]

A number of pundits including Paul Krugman have said that their opinion of TPP is only slightly positive or slightly negative. Changing ones opinion as more information becomes available is a sign of intellectual maturity and doing so when the +s and -s are so nearly balanced should not be surprising.

Pretending that changing ones opinion is a bad thing is strictly for ultra-orthodox religious extremists, weak people, and pure dogmatists.


yrs,
rubato

[rubato]

Bragging that he was against the TPP 8 months ago <<WHEN NOTHING WAS KNOWN ABOUT IT>> is rather more embarrassing and revealing. He never changes his opinions because they are never based on facts. He is against anything Obama is for. What a moron!

"...

O'Malley, however, suggested that Clinton's position shifted because her first 2016 debate is next week.

"I believe we need to stop stumbling backwards into bad deals. Secretary Clinton can justify her own reversal of opinion on this, but I didn't have one opinion 8 months ago and switch that opinion on the eve of debates," O'Malley's statement continued. "I'm against the Trans Pacific Partnership. I let people know that from the outset." ... "

But this is the party who opposes the ACA and still pretends global warming isn't happening.


yrs,
rubato

[wesw]

Hillary would wiggle her bare ass on hot asphalt for 5 dollars or five votes....

...can t remember the name of the movie I m referencing tho.....

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[wesw]

Paper Moon- thanks google!

I had to google "catch as catch can" to find it tho....

[oldr_n_wsr]

I agree with rubato that changing ones mind when new facts are revealed is to be applauded not ridiculed. But the rub is when one changes ones mind for political expediency and not the facts (even if the facts warrant a change of mind).
With HC, one never knows the reason the mind got changed.

ETA
And HC is not alone in that.

[rubato]

In science men change their opinions when new knowledge
becomes available, but philosophy in the minds of many is assimilated rather to theology
than to science. A theologian proclaims eternal truths. The creeds remain unchanged since
the Council of Nicaea. Where nobody knows anything, there is no point in changing your
mind.

Bertrand Russell


Whether she changed for expedient reasons or because she, Like Paul Krugman, saw the issue as finely balanced is pure speculation.




yrs,
rubato

[MajGenl.Meade]

In science men change their opinions when new knowledge becomes available

Sexist pig!

[dales]

Hillary would wiggle her bare ass on hot asphalt for 5 dollars or five votes....

The mental picture of that is disturbing and terrifying.