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Gob
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please feel free to go fuck yourself....

Exeter Chiefs rugby club has been urged to change its name and stop "playing Indian" by an expert in Native American history.

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Dr Rachel Herrmann from the University of Southampton has denounced the team, which rebranded as Chiefs in 1999, for its use of Native American imagery.

She said it evoked "Britain's forgotten imperial American past".

A spokesman for the club said they had no comment to make on the claims, nor the call to change its name.

In the US, Native American campaigners have been calling on teams like the Washington Redskins to change its name, describing it as racist and offensive.

Dr Herrmann said: "I think changing [Exeter's] name would be the ultimate step but I don't know whether that is likely to happen.

"I would at least like to see an engaged discussion between the team and Native American groups that could better explain why the name might be offensive."

There have been protests in the US over the name of NFL team Washington Redskins

Dr Hermann criticised rugby fans who waved tomahawks, wore Native American headdress and war paint, and said it evoked a history of settler colonialism.


The expert said it also ignores modern Native Americans who no longer dress in that way and the protests of those who have spoken out "against such cultural appropriation".
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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Ditto ,Gob! :lol:

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The good doctor is still cheesed off over that bit of unpleasantness in Boston almost 250 years ago.

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Although he is correct in one regard, as I'd also criticize the rugby fans waving tomahawks merely on the basis of what I've seen rugby and soccer hooligans do in the past *WITHOUT* allowing them weapons on top of it.
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Be nice to them.

They weren't masculine enough to be Vikings.


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"Britain's forgotten imperial American past"
I can assure the good doctor that it is not forgotten...

In fact we remember it every July 4th... 8-)
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rubato wrote:Be nice to them.

They weren't masculine enough to be Vikings.


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Hmmmmm, Vikings :lol:
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I guess 13% Viking blood is not enough to turn the tide. http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012 ... hnicities/

And Gob, if you take an R and an N out of the doctor's name, does she lose her bedside manner?

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Maybe the Indian chief was just the first step to building a whole mascot TEAM!


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