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The likes of which the world has never seen!

Trump's response to North Korea's nuclear weaponized ICBM threat.

Is he gonna nuke 'em?!
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One of the President's military advisers was just on the news using the words ''preventive war" . . .
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Thi is the sort of thing that scares me the most about him in the white house. The guy is an ass with a nuclear arsenal--it can't end well.

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The worse his approval ratings get the more likely he will be to try to repair it with some 'grand gesture' to make himself look more 'manly' and decisive. Think Bush II and Iraq.


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Or Clinton and Bosnia or Afghanistan or Sudan. Or ...

Wag the dog is a time honored presidential tradition to deflect public attention. But I think the greatest danger is that Trump just doesn't know when to stop; he'd kill millions rather than admit he's wrong.

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"A man you can provoke with a tweet should not have the nuclear codes" - Hillary Clinton
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And just days after Tillerson said the US doesn't have to be looked upon as the enemy and Lord Dampnut should try to negotiate.

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Headline in the WaPo today: ‘God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un,’ evangelical adviser says

Maybeso. God has not permitted to me any special information about His relationship with the POTUS. However, I have serious doubts about devine authority to kill all the non-combatants that would be 'collateral damage' in the fire and fury the likes of which the world has never seen before. Particularly those dwelling South of the 38th parallel.

Very unsettling thoughts for the anniversary of the destruction of Nagasaki.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act ... 61f0695cdb

You just can't make these things up. I thought it impossible to find a bigger ass than Trump, but this guy is a contender.
“A Christian writer asked me, ‘Don’t you want the president to embody the Sermon on the Mount?’ ” he said, referring to Jesus’s famous sermon. “I said absolutely not.”
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I think that today the odious Sebastian Gorka, (Gorka, Stephen Miller, Jay Sekulov...Trump certainly has a talent for finding propagandist minions that redline on the Repulsiveness Meter) tipped the hand on what this is all about:
Gorka On Critics Of Trump’s North Korea Rhetoric: ‘Support The Executive’

White House adviser Sebastian Gorka said Wednesday that President Donald Trump’s threatening of North Korea with “fire and fury” and nuclear weapons over its alleged advancement of nuclear capabilities distinguished the United States as a “hyperpower.”

Responding to bipartisan criticism of Trump’s bombastic rhetoric, Gorka said: “These are the moments when we have to come together as the nation and support the executive.”

In an appearance on “Fox & Friends” — which Trump is known to watch nearly daily — co-host Steve Doocy asked Gorka what Trump meant with a new round of threats on Twitter earlier that morning.

And, responding to critics of Trump’s rhetoric including Democratic leadership and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who chairs the Senate Armed Forces Committee, Gorka was blunt: You’re either with Trump, or you’re not a patriot.

“These are the moments when we have to come together as the nation and support the executive,” he said. “Whether you voted for him or not, whether they’re a Democrat, whether they’re a Republican, these are the trying times. During the Cuban missile crisis, we stood behind JFK. This is analogous to the Cuban missile crisis.”

Gorka added: “Anybody, whether they’re a member of a Congress, whether they’re a journalist: If you think your party politics, your ideology trumps the national security of America, that is an indictment of you.”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/g ... a-rhetoric

All of this bluster is nothing but a cynical, desperate, pathetic attempt to revive Trump's crumbling poll numbers, (and of course change the media focus from all the topics that are causing the crumbling)...
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"You’re either with Trump, or you’re not a patriot." or, as Samuel Johnson said, "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."

Me, I prefer to get my morality from sources more American, such as Mark Twain, who had fictional Huck Finn choose between conforming to authority or doing the right thing, conclude: well, I guess I will go to Hell then. I'm with Huck.

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“These are the moments when we have to come together as the nation and support the executive,” he said. “Whether you voted for him or not, whether they’re a Democrat, whether they’re a Republican, these are the trying times. During the Cuban missile crisis, we stood behind JFK. This is analogous to the Cuban missile crisis
I'm sure many in Jonestown thought the same thing when they drank the Kool Aid. but you see what happens when you blindly follow a mentally ill jerk.
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I would like to comment, but I can’t.
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.

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liberty wrote:I would like to comment, but I can’t.
Go on, don't be shy. I'll listen no matter what your thoughts.

OK, take it away and unburden your troubled and confused soul.
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liberty wrote:I would like to comment, but I can’t.
I would have read your comment if you did but you didn't even though you actually did.

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I think he is finally learning the maxim " better to be silent and be thought a fool than speaking and removing all doubt"
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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It's well known that Plan B doesn't allow comments.


Wait, that 's a different site.
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Plan B only allows comment at my discretion,

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