And you are telling me that we can beat the Russians. The Russian don’t have this problem they are united as one people. Russian nationalism is not a dirty word. The idea that we can defeat the Russians in an arctic war is ridicules. Jingoism doesn’t win wars people do people who are willing to suffer for a cause; that is not the people of this country. There are things we could do to improve our chances and it doesn’t involve a lot of money, but we won’t do it.
https://newsline.com/chanting-american- ... deo-video/
Chanting American flag-waver heckled at UC Berkeley in ‘social experiment’ video (VIDEO)
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November 18, 2017
Many University of California students saw red over a US flag being displayed on campus, the man behind the stunt, political activist and provocateur Ami Horowitz, told RT. Almost no-one minded an ISIS flag, though, he says.
In the first part of a 2 1/2-minute video filmed at UC Berkeley early November, Horowitz is seen parading the the Stars and Stripes, chanting loudly: “The greatest country on the Planet Earth that protects our freedom!” and similar praise. His sentiment did not seem to strike a chord with the crowd: those who chose to pay attention had some pretty unpatriotic comments.
“The complete opposite,”“Canada’s pretty great,” and “Your flag sucks, fool!” were some of the reactions seen in the video, along with quite a few examples of “F**k America!”
“I was out there for about an hour, and in that hour we had about 20-25 people making negative comments about the flag and maybe three or four had positive comments to say of the flag,” Horowitz told RT.
The liberal university was the scene of large-scale anti-nationalist protests this year that repeatedly spiraled into violence.
In the second part of his video experiment, Horowitz went on campus again, this time brandishing a custom-made flag of the terrorist group Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL), calling on the Berkeley crowd to join the jihadists while denouncing “US imperialism.” “ISIS protects Islam… I denounce western imperialism. I denounce American imperialism,” Horowitz can be seen shouting.
The video shows no negative reactions to the apparent display of ISIS propaganda, with two young men even seen thanking Horowitz for taking a stand. “Good for you, man. Good for you,” a young man is filmed saying. “I love that you’re saying that,” another said.
“I was yelling ‘ISIS, come fight for ISIS,’ I said ‘ISIS’ every third word,” Horowitz told RT, arguing that while the ISIS flag might have escaped onlookers, the words left no denying who he appeared to be representing.
Horowitz said that while he was waving the ISIS flag for two hours, double the time he stood with the US one, he only “got one person who thought it was obnoxious.” “For the most part, people were not simply saying a word, they were ignoring it, that were looking at me and looking away,” the activist said, adding, “No matter what you expect, it’s still shocking.”
Horowitz rejects any notion that he edited the video to include only those reactions that favor his agenda. “The way I do my business is I will only show the majority opinion. For example, there were a couple of people who supported the US flag, I did not show that, because the majority of people’s response to me was overly negative. I’ve never cherry-picked in the sense, I never do the reverse. I never show the minority and express it as the majority,” Horowitz said.
It is not the first time the activist has tested UC Berkeley students’ tolerance to various kinds of propaganda. In 2014, he tried a similar stunt, then with ISIS and Israeli flags. The attitude of the students has not changed much since then, as it appears from the video.
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Your assessment of Russia is pretty one-sided; just because a government can suppress the opposition does not make it disappear. And reverence for a flag, any flag, does not translate into people "willing to suffer for a cause"; the Americans have always stepped up when it was needed, even if they eschew the jingoistic nationalism you somehow find necessary for our survival. I would think many, if not most, of us would be far more willing to defend an America where the people could openly say "Fuck America" than one where we were forced to mouth the words of patriotic songs and pretend that everything is great. That is our greatest strength, not a weakness.
and as for ignoring a jerk with an ISIS flag who was there before with a US flag, so what? do you think they forgot him from before? I doubt they did.
and as for ignoring a jerk with an ISIS flag who was there before with a US flag, so what? do you think they forgot him from before? I doubt they did.
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It's the strange idea that the Russians would have any interest in starting a war with the US in the arctic that is completely ridicules...(well, ridiculous, actually...)The idea that we can defeat the Russians in an arctic war is ridicules.
I don't know where you got this weird beard scenario from lib, but why on earth would Russia launch a direct military confrontation with the United States over some desolate, remote, barren stretch of land above the arctic circle? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
It makes even less sense when you consider that we have a President whose policies of American retreat and abandonment of it's global responsibilities has provided Russia with easy pickings in much more desirable climes...
(In the Mid-East, in Eastern Europe, etc.)
Why not go after all the openings we're leaving for them with no resistance, rather than make a frontal attack against a military apparatus that is is much stronger and more extensive than theirs?
It makes absolutely zero sense...
The real problem, (as opposed to your fantasy about the arctic war) isn't that the American people are somehow "weaker" or "inferior" to the Russian people, but that the American President who (by any yardstick you care to apply: intellect, courage, knowledge, experience, strategic thinking, discipline, patience, cunning, etc, etc) is vastly weaker and inferior to the Russian President...(in fact our President may very well be under the undue influence of the Russian President)
If you're truly concerned about Russia (or any other hostile foreign regime) getting the upper had over the US, then you should be joining me in calling for the Impeachment of Donald J. Trump...
ETA:
Here you go lib...
Pick one out for your sigline:
https://www.google.com/search?q=impeach ... 24&bih=656
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Jim, I have two grandsons that I love very much I don’t want them fight, suffer and die in an arctic hell for a lost cause. Out of a sense fairness we should also draft girls. I also have granddaughters I love. One of the girls although she is a liberal tree huger friends of animal pacifist type she could adapt and survive. The other girl wouldn’t have a dog’s chance in hell.
Jim, I don’t know if you know it or not, but the Russian army is not like the US Army; It is filled with psychopaths. Russian recruits routinely die in training. They are even raped by regular army NCOs despite the fact Russia is anti-homosexual. Any female POW that fell into their hands would be in a living hell until she killed herself. I don’t want my granddaughters to be one of them.
I know that we militarily look good on paper, but he same was true during Vietnam and Iraq and they were much weaker than Russia.
You don’t need to read this just scan through:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994 ... s-soldiers
In Russia's Army, Cruelty A Way Of Life
March 14, 1994|By James P. Gallagher, Tribune Staff Writer.
MOSCOW — For months, the two young draftees had been subjected to the routine cruelty inflicted on Russian army recruits-beatings, verbal harassment, humiliation. Then came a painful, ritualized hazing to mark the completion of basic training.
Such abuse is common throughout Russia's armed forces. Its teenage victims frequently end up with serious injuries. An alarming number are killed or driven to commit suicide.
Almost always, the mistreatment is ignored or covered up. This time, though, the results were so unusual-and so ghastly-that there was no way the army could keep them secret.
The tragedy unfolded at a remote base on a bleak, impoverished island in the Pacific Ocean. In the wee hours of the morning last Tuesday, the two recruits decided they had had enougl. They crept into the room where their tormentors were sleeping and opened fire with machine guns.
When the shooting stopped, six soldiers were dead and three others were badly wounded, according to official reports. The two recruits, identified only as Beltsov and Agdashev, then held off an army assault, even shooting down a helicopter, before finally surrendering hours later.
Perhaps the most troubling aspect of the barracks murders on the tiny island of Tanfilyev near Japan is how little they shocked ordinary Russians, who long have accepted vicious brutality as an unavoidable fact of military life.
"The relationship between older and younger soldiers is very primitive, almost on a savage level," said Vladimir Romanov, a retired army colonel who did five years of research on the physical and psychological abuse of recruits and now teaches at a Moscow military academy.
"The root of the problem lies in the broader society, where people have been dehumanized and denied their rights for such a long time. The situation in the army is just a mirror of this. New recruits are treated like they have no rights. Older soldiers feel they can do whatever they like to them."
Army regulations forbid the beating and humiliation of draftees, but an unofficial system that condones and even encourages abuse has taken hold over the last three decades. Officers generally ignore the problem, and often deal harshly with victims who resist or complain.
The system is called dyedovshina after the dyeds, or granddads-soldiers who, in their final months of service, routinely assault junior recruits with fists, feet, sticks and belts.
In addition, younger soldiers are required to do all of the dyeds' daily chores, including polishing their boots, cleaning their weapons and doing their laundry.
Interviews with soldiers completing service from 1987 to 1991 found that the dyedovshina system held sway in more than three-quarters of all army units, Romanov said. Sergeants and other non-commissioned officers also beat soldiers frequently, he said.
Abuse is so brutal and unrestrained that as many as 10,000 Russian soldiers die in non-battlefield circumstances each year, according to the Union of Soldiers' Parents, a volunteer organization seeking to curb the violence. Faulty equipment and inadequate safety contribute to that toll.
"It's a very difficult problem to deal with because most of the worst cases are covered up," charged the group's president, Galina Shaldikova, whose son, Vadim, suffered a fatal heart attack in 1986 after being struck in the chest by a sergeant who held a black belt in karate.
"Many times, when young boys are killed in the army, their bodies are strung up, and then the officers claim they actually killed themselves. We have called for a commission to investigate the problem, but neither the military nor the government has responded," Shaldikova said.
Such pervasive brutality of life in uniform helps explain why the Russian army has been crippled by a recruitment crisis.
Even though the length of service recently was reduced to 18 months from two years, and despite a scaling-back of student deferments, the number of young men being inducted falls far short of the army's needs.
Draft-dodging is widespread, especially in big cities, where it is relatively easy to find a doctor who will attest-for a hefty fee-that a youth is too ill to serve. Desertions reportedly are rising fast.
Romanov suspects recruits also are being raped with increased frequency, although no reliable statistics are available.
"Sexual abuse is just another humiliation inflicted on younger soldiers," he explained. "After all, many people enter the army straight from prison, where rape is common. In fact, people drafted into the army tend to be losers. The better people find ways to stay out.
"My research found that at least a third of those who did go into the service had mental or emotional problems. No wonder they become so aggressive once inside the army. They can get rid of their frustrations by lording it over new recruits."
Jim, I don’t know if you know it or not, but the Russian army is not like the US Army; It is filled with psychopaths. Russian recruits routinely die in training. They are even raped by regular army NCOs despite the fact Russia is anti-homosexual. Any female POW that fell into their hands would be in a living hell until she killed herself. I don’t want my granddaughters to be one of them.
I know that we militarily look good on paper, but he same was true during Vietnam and Iraq and they were much weaker than Russia.
You don’t need to read this just scan through:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994 ... s-soldiers
In Russia's Army, Cruelty A Way Of Life
March 14, 1994|By James P. Gallagher, Tribune Staff Writer.
MOSCOW — For months, the two young draftees had been subjected to the routine cruelty inflicted on Russian army recruits-beatings, verbal harassment, humiliation. Then came a painful, ritualized hazing to mark the completion of basic training.
Such abuse is common throughout Russia's armed forces. Its teenage victims frequently end up with serious injuries. An alarming number are killed or driven to commit suicide.
Almost always, the mistreatment is ignored or covered up. This time, though, the results were so unusual-and so ghastly-that there was no way the army could keep them secret.
The tragedy unfolded at a remote base on a bleak, impoverished island in the Pacific Ocean. In the wee hours of the morning last Tuesday, the two recruits decided they had had enougl. They crept into the room where their tormentors were sleeping and opened fire with machine guns.
When the shooting stopped, six soldiers were dead and three others were badly wounded, according to official reports. The two recruits, identified only as Beltsov and Agdashev, then held off an army assault, even shooting down a helicopter, before finally surrendering hours later.
Perhaps the most troubling aspect of the barracks murders on the tiny island of Tanfilyev near Japan is how little they shocked ordinary Russians, who long have accepted vicious brutality as an unavoidable fact of military life.
"The relationship between older and younger soldiers is very primitive, almost on a savage level," said Vladimir Romanov, a retired army colonel who did five years of research on the physical and psychological abuse of recruits and now teaches at a Moscow military academy.
"The root of the problem lies in the broader society, where people have been dehumanized and denied their rights for such a long time. The situation in the army is just a mirror of this. New recruits are treated like they have no rights. Older soldiers feel they can do whatever they like to them."
Army regulations forbid the beating and humiliation of draftees, but an unofficial system that condones and even encourages abuse has taken hold over the last three decades. Officers generally ignore the problem, and often deal harshly with victims who resist or complain.
The system is called dyedovshina after the dyeds, or granddads-soldiers who, in their final months of service, routinely assault junior recruits with fists, feet, sticks and belts.
In addition, younger soldiers are required to do all of the dyeds' daily chores, including polishing their boots, cleaning their weapons and doing their laundry.
Interviews with soldiers completing service from 1987 to 1991 found that the dyedovshina system held sway in more than three-quarters of all army units, Romanov said. Sergeants and other non-commissioned officers also beat soldiers frequently, he said.
Abuse is so brutal and unrestrained that as many as 10,000 Russian soldiers die in non-battlefield circumstances each year, according to the Union of Soldiers' Parents, a volunteer organization seeking to curb the violence. Faulty equipment and inadequate safety contribute to that toll.
"It's a very difficult problem to deal with because most of the worst cases are covered up," charged the group's president, Galina Shaldikova, whose son, Vadim, suffered a fatal heart attack in 1986 after being struck in the chest by a sergeant who held a black belt in karate.
"Many times, when young boys are killed in the army, their bodies are strung up, and then the officers claim they actually killed themselves. We have called for a commission to investigate the problem, but neither the military nor the government has responded," Shaldikova said.
Such pervasive brutality of life in uniform helps explain why the Russian army has been crippled by a recruitment crisis.
Even though the length of service recently was reduced to 18 months from two years, and despite a scaling-back of student deferments, the number of young men being inducted falls far short of the army's needs.
Draft-dodging is widespread, especially in big cities, where it is relatively easy to find a doctor who will attest-for a hefty fee-that a youth is too ill to serve. Desertions reportedly are rising fast.
Romanov suspects recruits also are being raped with increased frequency, although no reliable statistics are available.
"Sexual abuse is just another humiliation inflicted on younger soldiers," he explained. "After all, many people enter the army straight from prison, where rape is common. In fact, people drafted into the army tend to be losers. The better people find ways to stay out.
"My research found that at least a third of those who did go into the service had mental or emotional problems. No wonder they become so aggressive once inside the army. They can get rid of their frustrations by lording it over new recruits."
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What's this almost paranoic fixation you have that any ground war with what remains of the USSR is going to be fought in the wilds of the Great White North? I know that the forces of the Third Reich came to grief in large part because of the harsh Russian winter of 1942-43, but supply issues also played a major factor in their defeat; supply issues which the US military is more than prepared to handle. Remember too that even though the Russians may have won; i.e., beaten back the Nazis, it was still a terribly expensive victory as more than 1.1 million Russian soldiers (and who knows how many more civilians) became casualties.liberty wrote:Jim, I have two grandsons that I love very much I don’t want them fight, suffer and die in an arctic hell for a lost cause.
You don't seriously think today's Russia is willing to start up another sausage grinder like that again? Or do you believe they intend to use the Aleutian Islands as stepping stones and invade through Alaska and Canada, so we'll have to turn the 49th state and the arctic provinces of our good neighbor to the north into a war zone before we have to fight them Rooskies in the wheat fields of Kansas?
I think you've been watching too many reruns of 'Red Dawn'.
-"BB"-
Yes, I suppose I could agree with you ... but then we'd both be wrong, wouldn't we?
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That's scary. They might kill somebody.liberty wrote: Jim, I don’t know if you know it or not, but the Russian army is not like the US Army; It is filled with psychopaths.
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You would be scared if you were their prisoner. Remember how terrified you were during Vietnam that would be nothing compared to the Russians.Joe Guy wrote:That's scary. They might kill somebody.liberty wrote: Jim, I don’t know if you know it or not, but the Russian army is not like the US Army; It is filled with psychopaths.
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Bicycle Bill wrote:What's this almost paranoic fixation you have that any ground war with what remains of the USSR is going to yliberty wrote:Jim, I have two grandsons that I love very much I don’t want them fight, suffer and die in an arctic hell for a lost cause.
be fought in the wilds of the Great White North? I know that the forces of the Third Reich came to grief in large part because of the harsh Russian winter of 1942-43, but supply issues also played a major factor in their defeat; supply issues which the US military is more than prepared to handle. Remember too that even though the Russians may have won; i.e., beaten back the Nazis, it was still a terribly expensive victory as more than 1.1 million Russian soldiers (and who knows how many more civilians) became casualties.
You don't seriously think today's Russia is willing to start up another sausage grinder like that again?
Think about Vietnam and then tell me who would come out of the sausage grinder the victor?
Or do you believe they intend to use the Aleutian Islands as stepping stones. No, Putin is too smart for that; he will avoid our strengths and play to our weaknesses.
we have to fight them Rooskies in the wheat fields of Kansas?
No that will never happen if the Russians occupy northern Canada there will be peace, I don't know what it would look like but the Russian would like it. If I was Putin I would demand the US divide into four countries.
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the Normandy invasion took place across a 20 mi wide channel with an enemy who was distracted by war with the Russians and it was still a hard fight. The idea that Russia, with a GDP less than half of California is going to attack across the ARCTIC OCEAN or the BERING SEA is just fucking stupid. The weather will kill most of them even in summer. The high rates of alcoholism in both Russia and its armed services suggests a "lack of readiness" the way the Afghanis kicked their asses sideways suggests a lack of ability. I know a lot of ex-Russian scientists and their scientific resources are pathetic.
Not just a paranoid fantasy but a stupid paranoid fantasy.
yrs,
rubato
Not just a paranoid fantasy but a stupid paranoid fantasy.
yrs,
rubato
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Some people bought the anti-Soviet propaganda and still believe it.
Russia isn’t going to physically invade us; they’re going to ruin our democracy using social media.
Russia isn’t going to physically invade us; they’re going to ruin our democracy using social media.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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true, but they're doing that to us as well.the way the Afghanis kicked their asses sideways suggests a lack of ability.
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Lib, I really do not get this at all...
If you want to worry about the Russians waging war against the US you don't have to concoct some Tom Clancy type fantasy... (which isn't really fair to Clancy; none of his books have a premise as preposterous as the scenario you have posited...)
The Russians are waging an actual war against us, right in the here and now...
It's a multi-front war that includes cyber attacks and large scale sophisticated disnformation efforts through social media, and the their controlled press...
It's a war to undermine American democracy, the faith of Americans in the institutions that protect that democracy, and the faith of American allies in the United States...
All of this is real, it's going on now, and it has been thoroughly documented...
And if that isn't enough for you to worry about, it's a war where the enemy is being aided in its efforts by an American President who is a complete supplicant to Russia, and who has demonstrated time and again that he would rather support Putin's goals rather than the best interests of his own country...(Why would Putin want to divide the US into four countries? That would just mean he'd need to find three more Trump-type collaborators. He might as well just let the one he already has preside over the whole thing)
Maybe I've missed it, but I don't recall ever reading anything posted by you expressing the slightest concern about this real war being waged against us in the here and now. (In fact I believe you recently bragged about how infrequently you think about our collaborator President. I guess your fixation on a fantasy invasion of Alaska doesn't leave you with much time to think about real, current, existing threats. )
To me you look like a guy standing out on his front lawn worrying about a Zombie Apocalypse while his house is burning down behind him...
If you want to worry about the Russians waging war against the US you don't have to concoct some Tom Clancy type fantasy... (which isn't really fair to Clancy; none of his books have a premise as preposterous as the scenario you have posited...)
The Russians are waging an actual war against us, right in the here and now...
It's a multi-front war that includes cyber attacks and large scale sophisticated disnformation efforts through social media, and the their controlled press...
It's a war to undermine American democracy, the faith of Americans in the institutions that protect that democracy, and the faith of American allies in the United States...
All of this is real, it's going on now, and it has been thoroughly documented...
And if that isn't enough for you to worry about, it's a war where the enemy is being aided in its efforts by an American President who is a complete supplicant to Russia, and who has demonstrated time and again that he would rather support Putin's goals rather than the best interests of his own country...(Why would Putin want to divide the US into four countries? That would just mean he'd need to find three more Trump-type collaborators. He might as well just let the one he already has preside over the whole thing)
Maybe I've missed it, but I don't recall ever reading anything posted by you expressing the slightest concern about this real war being waged against us in the here and now. (In fact I believe you recently bragged about how infrequently you think about our collaborator President. I guess your fixation on a fantasy invasion of Alaska doesn't leave you with much time to think about real, current, existing threats. )
To me you look like a guy standing out on his front lawn worrying about a Zombie Apocalypse while his house is burning down behind him...
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rubato wrote:the Normandy invasion took place across a 20 mi wide channel with an enemy who was distracted by war with the Russians and it was still a hard fight. The idea thatRussia, with a GDP less than half of California is going to attack across the ARCTIC OCEAN or the BERING SEA is just fucking stupid. The weather will kill most of them even in summer. The high rates of alcoholism in both Russia and its armed services suggests a "lack of readiness" the way the Afghanis kicked their asses sideways suggests a lack of ability. I know a lot of ex-Russian scientists and their scientific resources are pathetic.
What was the GDP of North Vietnam?
Not just a paranoid fantasy but a stupid paranoid fantasy.
Paranoid, perhaps but the US Army has a unit that does nothing but this 365.
yrs,
rubato
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Big RR wrote:the way the Afghanis kicked their asses sideways suggests a lack of ability.
true, but they're doing that to us as well.
But we are not Afghans. Are you suggesting that we are of the same caliber as those people? Think back to the cowardliness demonstrated by a large potion of the US population during Vietnam. Do you think the US as a people has developed any more grit since then? No, we have only gotten weaker. Hell we are not even a nation anymore?
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so it's cowardice to refuse to go into a country and fight a war in which we have little or no stake just because the president says we must (hell, congress didn't even declare a war and the US government had no interest in "winning")? I don't buy it. I think people who don't want to go and fight for US business interests would fight pretty hard to defend their homes. I had no desire to go and fight to keep a brutal dictator in power in S Vietnam, but I would fight to defend my home, and I'd bet a lot of others would as well.liberty wrote:Big RR wrote:the way the Afghanis kicked their asses sideways suggests a lack of ability.
true, but they're doing that to us as well.
But we are not Afghans. Are you suggesting that we are of the same caliber as those people? Think back to the cowardliness demonstrated by a large potion of the US population during Vietnam. Do you think the US as a people has developed any more grit since then? No, we have only gotten weaker. Hell we are not even a nation anymore?
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And you thought the Vietnamese were about to invade the US too?What was the GDP of North Vietnam?
nutz
yrs,
rubato
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Well, there was this domino theory.... 
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A prophet (metaphorical) is crying in the wilderness but know no one will hear. Lycurgus cried out to his people, but they heard and that made the difference. In the end, they messed it up but it lasted a while and at least they tried.
I can hear it now and the answer is no. It is more complicated than that.
I can hear it now and the answer is no. It is more complicated than that.
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.
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I am the walrus