How Republicans commemorate 9/11

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Scooter
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How Republicans commemorate 9/11

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North Carolina Republicans vote to override a budget veto while Democrats were at a 9/11 ceremony

While North Carolina Democrats were remembering the lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001, their Republican colleagues took advantage of their absence and voted to override the governor’s budget veto Wednesday morning.

North Carolina House Republicans called for a “surprise vote” while Gov. Roy Cooper (D) and many House members were attending a 9/11 memorial event, Cooper said at a news conference.

“Today, on the 18th anniversary of 9/11, while the state was honoring first responders, Republicans called a deceptive surprise override of my budget veto,” Cooper said. “Unfortunately, it's the people of North Carolina who lose.”

House Democratic leader Darren Jackson told reporters that he told his caucus members they didn’t need to be in attendance, and that state Rep. David Lewis (R) gave Jackson his word that there would be no votes, according to the News and Observer. Jackson said he wants Lewis, who is chairman of the Rules, Calendar and Operations Committee, to recall the veto before it reaches the Senate.

Republicans were unable to override the veto for about two months — as long as Democrats were present in the chamber, Cooper said.

The House is allowed to conduct business as long as at least 61 of 120 members are present, according to the News and Observer. Because chambers of the General Assembly need a three-fifths majority to override a veto, there were enough Republicans available to make that happen.

At 8:30 a.m., Democrats were told no votes would take place Wednesday, according to the News and Observer — something Republican House Speaker Tim Moore denies. After most of the Democrats left to attend the memorial event shortly before 9 a.m., according to the News & Observer, Rep. Jason Saine (R) made the motion to review the budget. According to the newspaper, Moore dismissed objections from the Democrats present.

The vote went ahead with 64 members present. The result was a veto override, 55 to 9.

“This is a tragedy. This is a travesty of the process, and you know it,” Rep. Deb Butler (D) screamed before the vote began. “Mr. Speaker, how dare you, Mr. Speaker!”

State Rep. Mary Belk (D) said at a news conference that Moore “kept talking over us. He turned off our mics,” the AP reported.

Democratic state Sen. Jeff Jackson called Republicans’ behavior “plainly unethical” in a tweet shortly after the override.

As Moore threatened to have Butler removed from the chamber, her Democratic colleagues surrounded her to prevent her arrest, according to CBS 17. Butler told Moore he would have to answer to the people of North Carolina.

“It’s a great day for North Carolina,” Moore told CBS 17.
The NC State Senate has close to a 3/5ths Republican majority, but not quite (29-21), so as long as all the Democrats are always present, they won't get this override passed there.

But it was a pretty despicable play nonetheless.

And I would bet that if Democrats had skipped the memorial and attended the House, Republicans would have called off the vote, gone to the memorial, and criticized the Democrats for not attending.
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Re: How Republicans commemorate 9/11

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Of course in the current political climate, there will be those, and there are many, for whom the end justifies the means. We beat those libtards. Kind of like the whole McConnell/Garland debacle: clearly antidemocratic (small d) but there are enough Rs who laud Moscow Mitch or what he did because it achieved the end they wanted - a conservative slant to the SC.

What the Republicans did here in NC - and, if D leader Darren Jackson doesn't have a recording of Lewis giving his word that there would be no vote, there's not much he can do - will not lose them any votes they don't already have.

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Re: How Republicans commemorate 9/11

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Well it is fitting; 9/11 is when the US government took an anti-democratic (small d) anti civil liberty stance that continues to this day. This is a fine commemoration of that descent to fascism, and the observation that the people in NC are not storming the barricades over this speaks volumes. From what I heard on the raio, one dem who tried to prevent the vote was nearly removed from the chamber, until her fellow democrats formed a group around her to prevent security from carrying out the orders of the fuhrer, sorry, speaker.

I'm beginning to think that our form of democracy has had its run, as people cheer on the loss of power and rights.

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