Economic opportunity in Portland.

[liberty]

Maybe I should take my U-Haul to Portland instead of San Francisco. There might be more economic opportunities there than in San Francisco. If Fox News is lying, prove it.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/no-arrests...

Portland riots a week after ‘anarchists’ caused $500G in damages: Police
Widespread vandalism in downtown Portland targeted 35 separate locations

By Stephen Sorace FOXBusiness
Violent protesters tear through Portland, cause more than $500K in damages
Local police say new law prohibits them from using tear gas and crowd control measures. Marine Corps veteran Gabriel Johnson with reaction on 'Fox & Friends First.'

Portland police have yet to make any arrests a week after a group of around "100 anarchists" marched through the city’s downtown, damaging local businesses, tagging buildings with "Kill Cops" graffiti and lighting dumpsters on fire in the street – resulting in estimated damages of at least $500,000.

The Portland Police Bureau told Fox News on Tuesday that no arrests have been made related to the widespread acts of vandalism that happened on Oct. 12. Police also said that no update on the damages was available.

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The destruction began around 9 p.m. when the group, described by police as anarchists, used fencing from a nearby park to barricade the street, police said in a news release at the time. Members of the group set off illegal fireworks and sprayed graffiti on buildings. Police released photos from the scene showing graffiti that read "Kill Cops" and "Riots Work."


The group shattered numerous store windows and smashed bank ATMs as they marched through downtown Portland, lighting garbage cans and dumpsters on fire in the street, according to police.

Vandals shattered windows of local businesses in downtown Portland on Oct. 12. (Portland Police Bureau )
In total, police said the group targeted 35 separate locations, including banks, retail stores, coffee shops and government buildings. Some members tried to prevent officers from responding to the vandalism, lying down in front of police vehicles, according to police.

While officials estimated the damages to be more than $500,000, police said reports were still being collected.

The group lit a dumpster on fire while marching down a street in downtown Portland on Oct. 12, according to police. (Portland Police Bureau )
Police said that no arrests were made immediately during or after the widespread vandalism, police said.

Officers had been called in citywide, putting all but the highest priority 911 calls on hold, so that officers could be dispatched to the scene, the news release said.

However, the actions of Portland police are being questioned after it appeared officers did not directly intervene as the destruction unfolded.

The group knocked over garbage cans, littering the street with waste, on Oct. 12. (Portland Police Bureau )
A crew with local news station KOIN-TV reported seeing police remaining inside their cruisers as the destruction continued.
Lt. Jake Jensen addressed the police response during a neighborhood association meeting on Thursday, telling concerned residents that this will be how police respond to destructive protests and riots going forward due to the new HB 2928 legislation passed in Oregon.


Jensen said the new legislation dramatically limits how police are allowed to intervene during these incidents with restrictions on the use of pepper spray and other tools normally used in crowd control environments, including 40mm less-lethal devices.
"Does that mean we are now like a lawless city, anyone can come in and just bash around and do all the damage they want without any repercussions whatsoever?" resident Linda Witt asked during the meeting.

Jensen responded that while those involved in such acts may not face consequences immediately, it is still possible for them to face repercussions later.

Authorities are continuing to investigate the incidents of criminal behavior and asked anyone with information about those involved in the vandalism to contact police.

[MajGenl.Meade]

You are useless at the interwebs aren't you?

Your link =

Something has gone wrong…
It seems you clicked on a bad link and stumbled upon our 404 page.

Fox always lies, just as you do, by (sometimes) stating a fact and then drawing fascist conclusions.

Despite being a racist idiot, can you coherently ( ) explain why YOU believe that a mob setting fire to garbage cans, spray-painting buildings and smashing windows represents an "economic opportunity"?

Do you mean the economic opportunity to collect insurance? The economic opportunity to clean up the mess?

Why do you promote anarchist violence as helpful?

[Bicycle Bill]

Now we see the difference between the right and the rest of the populace.

"Does that mean we are now like a lawless city, anyone can come in and just bash around and do all the damage they want without any repercussions whatsoever?" resident Linda Witt asked during the meeting.

Ordinary citizen expresses concern over deterioration of peace, tranquility, and order.
 
 

I have been thinking of taking a trip to California. Can I rent a U-Haul out there, or should I bring one?

Maybe I should take my U-Haul to Portland instead of San Francisco. There might be more economic opportunities there than in San Francisco.

Right-winger sees opportunity to rob, loot, and steal with impunity ... more than likely while openly carrying firearms and flying flags of treason and sedition.

-"BB"-

[Gob]

ABC news do?

Or this lot?

Fox news is still there for me.

[liberty]

You are useless at the interwebs aren't you?

Your link =

Something has gone wrong…
It seems you clicked on a bad link and stumbled upon our 404 page.

Fox always lies, just as you do, by (sometimes) stating a fact and then drawing fascist conclusions.

Despite being a racist idiot, can you coherently ( ) explain why YOU believe that a mob setting fire to garbage cans, spray-painting buildings and smashing windows represents an "economic opportunity"?

Do you mean the economic opportunity to collect insurance? The economic opportunity to clean up the mess?

Why do you promote anarchist violence as helpful?

So I'm a racist because I believe in fairness and consistency, and I'm a fascist because I think order and discipline are paramount. The need for order it's universal; it is required for any civilization to function. When laws are not enforced, the disorder we see in liberal cities will eventually result. And when people have an advantage over others, they will take advantage of it.

Now Speaking of order, look at the violence in Portland. When people feel they can do whatever they want, the order in society breaks down. Violent people in Portland have no Fear of any consequences, and the mayhem will continue to occur until there are consequences. Check out how the crime rate, especially murder, has increased in Portland.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Answer the damn questions and stop diverting into some other subject entirely

1 Can you explain why YOU believe that a mob setting fire to garbage cans, spray-painting buildings and smashing windows represents an "economic opportunity"?

2. Do you mean the economic opportunity to collect insurance? The economic opportunity to clean up the mess?

3. Why do you promote anarchist violence as helpful?

[Burning Petard]

looks to me, particularly the way the link above for ABC describes it, this is a conflict between the police and the politicians that are responding to the desires of the general population of Portland. The Police are saying, "unless you let us go back to beating and killing blacks and indians as we want, we will not enforce the laws to protect your property

snailgate

[rubato]

Portland is a great city. Fantastic music, art, restaurant scene. Beautiful natural environment, Beautiful neighborhoods of houses made with first growth port Orford cedar. Some of the nicest and most kind people I've met anywhere. We lived on the street where Monica Lewinsky lived when she was at Lewis and Clark college. There was some anniversary or other which was stinkbait for the media to interview the neighbors. None of them would say a bad word about her. When we moved in we had a lot of neighbors come by and none of them would say anything unkind about her then either. EVERYone loves doggos and trains them well. Great urban forest (like S. Pasadena without the hateful rednecks).

The city government has made some shit decisions about prosecuting rioters but this is a correctable error.

For us the downsides were; Out friends and family were here. Winter was the season of darkness and death; the sun went down early and came up late and the sky was grey all day in between. (It is north of Boston which is already in climate hell).

btb from moving around the west coast starting in Santa Cruz where a 5ft 11in person fells pretty average and moving to So. Cal. which is like Lilliput ; standing in line at B 0f A I felt like a giant with all the central American and Vietnamese, then Portland where the girls basketball players were GIANTS towering over everyone else at Fred Meyers.
Fun though.

If you can find a way to make a living there I say go for it.

yrs,
rubato

[Bicycle Bill]

looks to me, particularly the way the link above for ABC describes it, this is a conflict between the police and the politicians that are responding to the desires of the general population of Portland. The Police are saying, "unless you let us go back to beating and killing blacks and indians as we want, we will not enforce the laws to protect your property

snailgate

No, I think what they are saying is that there needs to be certain levels of force able to be employed, dependent upon the level of the threat.  The idea of everybody coming together for a group hug and a community sing-along of "Kum-ba-yah" and then everything is going to be hunky-dory isn't going to work in all circumstances, any more than a 'one-size-fits-all' T-shirt will actually fit all sizes.

It's like keeping a dog.  You can train a puppy, and you can correct behavior in mature animals.  But if the dog goes rabid or berserk and starts attacking people with impunity, it's time to put it down.

-"BB"-

[liberty]

Answer the damn questions and stop diverting into some other subject entirely

1 Can you explain why YOU believe that a mob setting fire to garbage cans, spray-painting buildings and smashing windows represents an "economic opportunity"?

2. Do you mean the economic opportunity to collect insurance? The economic opportunity to clean up the mess?

3. Why do you promote anarchist violence as helpful?

Where have I said I approved of dishonorable behavior? I am not going to Portland to take advantage of anarchy by fencing stolen property. I am lampooning liberal thinking. Democrats and liberals have turned large, mostly northern cities into hellholes of crime, and, on top of that, they criminalized self-defense, or at least that is the way it appears from the peaceful backwoods of Louisiana. A while back, when liberals were saying disband the police, they were not talking about diverting some funds. They were saying shut down the police, "we don't need much policing." I am not a rightest, but I am sure not a liberal because liberals react not with thought but with emotion. Thinking is always better than a knee-jerk reaction.

To answer Meade questions:

"1 Can you explain why YOU believe that a mob setting fire to garbage cans, spray-painting buildings and smashing windows represents an "economic opportunity"?"

I don't, I am ridiculing the situation.

"2. Do you mean the economic opportunity to collect insurance? The economic opportunity to clean up the mess?"

No, I am ridiculing the situation that liberals have created. but there is always an opportunity for criminals to profit from anarchy


"3. Why do you promote anarchist violence as helpful?"

I don't promote it; that is the whole point of this post.

[Big RR]

A while back, when liberals were saying disband the police, they were not talking about diverting some funds. They were saying shut down the police, "we don't need much policing."

Sure they were.

[liberty]

A while back, when liberals were saying disband the police, they were not talking about diverting some funds. They were saying shut down the police, "we don't need much policing."

Sure they were.

Yes they were.

[Long Run]

Actually, there is a significant faction of progressive/liberals who advocate for the end of policing. They do not believe reform will work. The much larger faction (minority) within liberals have favored reducing police budgets. The vast majority of voters oppose both of those policies, including most minorities, which is why D pols try to dance on the fence, appeasing the loud but non-majority of liberals, versus being associated with a policy that is not just a loser but is a potential election wipe out issue.