USA & Israel launch illegal war on Iran

[BoSoxGal]

UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!


Except of course not.

Trump the psychopath child rapist and conman, Bibi the psychopath conman and probably also a child rapist, desperate to stay out of prison, willing to kill thousands of our children to kill tens of thousands of Iranians, raping our treasuries while our societies struggle with problems we could largely fix with those treasures.

Oh by the way:

Welcome to our newest Middle East misadventure and mass murder, my fellow Americans! Aren’t we proud to be Americans today?

[BoSoxGal]

Seen on Facebook:

Somebody give that man a Nobel Peace Prize.

[BoSoxGal]

Marjorie Taylor Greene is not happy.



You know it’s funny but there was barely any coverage of the 20 something Trump supporter/voter who breached security at Mar a Lago earlier this week carrying a loaded shotgun, ammo and a full can of gasoline. He was apparently obsessed with the Epstein files coverup.

Wonder how the off balance MAGA will be feeling about another Middle East war from the ‘no more wars’ candidate who jacked their cost of living and now is jacking it more?

[Scooter]

I was not impressed with Mark Carney's response to the strikes:

As U.S. President Donald Trump charges ahead with a major attack on Iran, Prime Minister Mark Carney says Canada supports at least one component of the American mission: destroying Iran's nuclear program.

"Canada supports the United States acting to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon and to prevent its regime from threatening international peace and security," Carney said in a speech at the Canada-India Growth and Investment Forum in Mumbai on Saturday.

"Canada's position remains clear: The Islamic Republic of Iran is the principal source of instability and terror throughout the Middle East, has one of the world's worst human rights records and must never be allowed to obtain or develop nuclear weapons."

It is reminiscent of his response to the attack on Venezuela and kidnapping of Maduro. I get that he is trying to thread a very small needle in dealing with the psychopathic manbaby in the Oval, but this is twice now that he has stopped far short of condemning clearly illegal attacks by the U.S., even if he is careful not to explicitly endorse them.

[Burning Petard]

Sorry, I guess I miss-understood. I thought the stable genius, who knows more than all the Generals, had already totally destroyed their nuclear weapon capabilities with the bunker-busting, penetrating everything bomb attack, the most successful aerial attack in all of history.

snailgate.

[liberty]

The War Powers Resolution of 1973 is still U.S. law. It requires the President of the United States to notify Congress within 48 hours of introducing U.S. forces into hostilities, and it allows military operations for up to 60 days without congressional authorization, followed by a 30‑day withdrawal period.

I believe that if regime change were to occur inside Iran, it could benefit the Iranian people and the broader region. It would have to be the Iranian people who make it happen; meaningful change cannot come from outside. In any case, such a development would be extremely risky and unpredictable. If an effort of this kind were to fail, it could create serious political and security consequences for President Trump and, to a lesser extent, the United States. I believe his family, associates, businesses, and customers would bear the brunt of any retaliation. That is my opinion.

President John F. Kennedy said, “Victory has a hundred fathers, but defeat is an orphan.”

[liberty]

I would not be surprised if Iranian agents in this country strike Trump, and I would be surprised they're not already some here. The borders were wide open for a long time. If they chose to strike back, especially with Trump most likely returning to the White House, short‑range missiles could be a concern.

You might ask how they would get them here. I do not think the missiles themselves would be smuggled in; more likely it would be the electronic components. If they had the intelligence capability to infiltrate engineers and technicians, they could potentially build them inside the country.

If that is not the case, then I may need to reevaluate my assumption that all groups have equal levels of Intelligence and technical capability.

[ex-khobar Andy]

I'm so glad Congress is not alive to see this.

[Crackpot]

Conspiracy theory that gives Trump too much credit: he started this war with Iran to drive up the global price of oil so it will become profitable for US oil companies to invest in Venezuela .

[liberty]

Conspiracy theory that gives Trump too much credit: he started this war with Iran to drive up the global price of oil so it will become profitable for US oil companies to invest in Venezuela .

My youngest granddaughter will be glad to hear that she’s a salesperson in the oil business in Texas and making a bundle. When the price of oil is high, she makes even more. I told her if she’s smart, she’ll be socking money away, because the oil business is boom and bust. If she manages her debt, she’ll be a millionaire in a few years at this rate. If she doesn’t save, she may be rich now and find herself poor in a few years.

What’s interesting is that she didn’t even finish high school, and yet she makes massively more money than my oldest granddaughter and her Hispanic husband, who worked like dog through school to become an engineer, and have the accompanying debt to show for it. So not only does she not have debt, she has much more money.

She’s always had a talent for people, and being drop‑dead beautiful doesn’t hurt either.

What can I say? The world’s not a fair place, is it? Some people are just lucky enough to be born with talents that make all the difference, and others are not.

[Bicycle Bill]

Just a thought here —

When Japan launched a surprise air strike against United States assets and resources in Hawaii back in December 1941, it was described as a "day that would live in infamy", and was quickly followed by a declaration of all-out war, which dragged on for four years and ended only after atomic weapons were used.

Same thing when a band of terrorists hijacked some airplanes and used those planes and their unwilling passengers to stage suicide attacks on the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and (potentially) the Capitol Building or the White House itself.   The comparisons to Pearl Harbor were many, and while a formal, declared war did not break out, our country has been expending money, manpower, material, and American lives maintaining a military presence in areas of the Middle East ever since.

So it seems clear to me.   Sneak attacks = infamous acts, acts that call for reaction and reprisal.

But when the US launches a surprise air strike against assets and resources in sovereign nations like Venezuela and Iran and capture or kill key figures within the governments of these nations, it becomes merely a "major combat operation" which is part of a "massive and ongoing operation" — Trump's own word.   Not a peep about "days of infamy" or a "monstrous, despicable, premeditated act of war" (Bush's words re: 9/11).

Am I wrong, but if sneak attacks = infamous acts, why does it matter WHO performs them?

I'm just afraid that, in cowboy language, Trump's poking the bull — and if you poke the bull enough, you're gonna get the horns.   Problem here is that the bull isn't just gonna use horns, and it won't be only on the guy who's poking at it.

-"BB"-

[ex-khobar Andy]

I suppose it is true to say that the world is a better place without Khamenei thus justifying his killing. Iran probably would not be where it is today had the CIA and MI6 not collaborated in removing Mossadegh in 1953 and replacing him with the odious Shah.

However I think that the world would be an also better place without Putin, Netanyahu and Trump. But I am not advocating their killing.

You don't have to go very far down that road before logic ties you in knots.

[Scooter]

#SendBarron is trending everywhere

[BoSoxGal]

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[Sue U]

#SendBarron is trending everywhere

I understand he has suddenly developed a case of bone spurs.

[Joe Guy]

I understand he has suddenly developed a case of bone spurs.

The Trump family doctor has revealed that Barron's unusual height is due to the tremendous growth of six inch bone spurs on each of his heels.

[Big RR]

I suppose it is true to say that the world is a better place without Khamenei thus justifying his killing

Can't argue with the first part; I won't miss him. But, "justifying his killing"? I know recent US presidents have enjoyed flexing their muscle targetting people they didn't like for murder, but it is hardly justified.

[MajGenl.Meade]

The speech is known for its famed first line, which opened with Roosevelt saying, "Yesterday, December 7, 1941—a date which will live in infamy..."

Not "day".

[Burning Petard]

Just a few moments ago I awoke on tv (not live) CinC Trump in the White House explaining his latest war. Among other things, he said this will make certain the Iran will never have nuclear weapons. He did not say anything about how he would end the possibility of The Russian Empire just selling or even giving them to Iran.

snailgate

[Bicycle Bill]

The speech is known for its famed first line, which opened with Roosevelt saying, "Yesterday, December 7, 1941—a date which will live in infamy..."

Not "day".

Correction noted. This is my sheepish look... 



but the incorrect word doesn't negate the point.

-"BB"-