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Obamacare Major FAIL In Contra Costa County

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Concord: Half of Affordable Care Act call center jobs will be part-time
By Matthias Gafni Contra Costa Times

Posted: 07/25/2013 05:59:08 PM PDT
Updated: 07/26/2013 06:53:01 AM PDT


CONCORD -- Earlier this year, Contra Costa County won the right to run a health care call center, where workers will answer questions to help implement the president's Affordable Care Act. Area politicians called the 200-plus jobs it would bring to the region an economic coup.[bwaaaa-haaaaa-haaaa-haaaaa!]

Now, with two months to go before the Concord operation opens to serve the public, information has surfaced that about half the jobs are part-time, with no health benefits -- a stinging disappointment to workers and local politicians who believed the positions would be full-time.

The Contra Costa County supervisor whose district includes the call center called the whole hiring process -- which attracted about 7,000 applicants -- a "comedy

"The battle for the call center was over jobs with good working wages and benefits; I never dreamed they would be part-time," said Karen Mitchoff, who has heard from complaining constituents and expressed her "extreme displeasure with how it was handled" to call center supervisors.

One recent hire, who last week learned the job would be part-time, said the new "intermittent" employees feel like they've been used as a political tool, and many now regret applying for the positions.[live and learn the hard lessons of life!]

"What's really ironic is working for a call center and trying to help people get health care, but we can't afford it ourselves," said the worker, who asked for anonymity out of fear of losing the job. The county says it had been telling the public and supervisors all along that some positions would be full-time and some part-time. However, portions of staff reports list all 204 jobs as full-time, and a job posting said the same.

It's the latest controversy involving the call center, one of three created statewide to help citizens enroll in various new health care options under President Obama's Affordable Care Act when it goes live at the start of next year.

Contra Costa was selected early on by the state to run the call center, but the deal mandated the county run the operation itself, with state funding, or lose it to another county. Once Contra Costa secured the call center, Concord and Richmond battled for the right to host it. Unions nearly derailed the project before some last-minute wrangling to ensure workers weren't transferred needlessly and would receive appropriate benefits.


The state budget allows for 180 customer service agents, half of them part-time, when the call center opens Oct. 1, said Contra Costa Deputy County Administrator Theresa Speiker. The full-time employees, she said, will handle the core 40-hour work week, while the part-timers will handle the extended hours. For the first three months, the call center at 2500 Bates Ave., off Highway 4 and Port Chicago Highway, will be open 72 hours a week. After that, it drops to 59 hours a week.

"In open session and in (staff reports) we've been pretty clear that not all will be full-time jobs," Speiker said.

Speiker said the 7,000 applications were "totally outside what we anticipated with the demand for these jobs. We were blown away."

The new hires, many of whom left other full-time jobs for the call center positions, were told they were the "cream of the crop," the recent hire said.

Orientation and training started in July, but stopped on the afternoon of July 18, when employees were told they would have private meetings about their positions, the employee said.

"It reminded me of that George Clooney movie where he goes around the country firing people ('Up in the Air')," the employee said. "The woman said, 'I know you were led to believe you would be full time, but things have changed. ... You are actually 'part-time intermittent.'"

The worker said no clear reasons for the change were given.

Those who became part-time were told they would have to pay full freight on their health plans, ranging from $600 to $1,200 a month for a single worker and between $1,400 to $2,900 a month for an employee with a family. That is a steep bill for employees with part-time jobs paying from $15.33 to $18.63 an hour.

Another applicant said he ditched another job offer after getting a congratulatory hiring letter from call center operators in June, only to be given the runaround in the months since.

During negotiations months ago, Service Employees International Union Local 1021, which represents the customer service agents, demanded 80 percent of health insurance premiums be paid by the county, and 20 percent be paid by the employee. SEIU did not return a call for comment.

"It is very disappointing. I was under the impression these were going to be well-paying, well-compensated positions," said County Supervisor Mary Piepho. "We were really hopeful these would be jobs meeting the unemployment needs in our county and offer them the ability to make a living and support their families."

Contact Matthias Gafni at 925-952-5026. Follow him at Twitter.com/mgafni.
Another Obama fustercluk! :ok

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Call centers for the ACA are going to be frustrating for people. The workers will have minimal training. Counties don't even know the rules yet so how is anyone supposed to learn the job well enough to explain the program.

Even after the workers know the rules, there is a major problem with Call Centers that nobody that runs them seems to want to deal with. There is no ownership.

In other words, each worker deals with whoever calls and then doesn't need to follow up on anything. Anyone who calls back about an issue will deal with whoever picks up the phone. Workers aren't motivated to do anything but try to sound customer friendly to their current call. There is no personal interaction and you will never see the worker because they don't even want you to know where they are located.

It starts 1/1/2014. How exciting is that?

Here's how I expect a typical call to go....

Caller - My name is Tom. I need to know what medical plan options I have.

Worker - Hello Tom. Thank you for calling the Call Center. Is your computer plugged in?... I mean... How are you today? I am Ralph and how can I help you?

Caller
- I need to know what medical plan options I have.

Worker - So Ralph... you are calling for plan options correct?

Caller - I need to know what medical plan options I have.

Worker - Okay, may I ask you your name, age and income please?

Caller - I'm Ralph - remember? I'm 50 years old and make $25000.00 per year.

Worker - Okay Ralph. And are you currently employed?

Caller - Yes. I make $25000.00 per year.

Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Click................... Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........

Recorded announcement....

********** We're sorry. A technical issue has occurred. Please call back in a few minutes. We value your patience and are here to serve you.********

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"Are you using Windows or Macintosh?"

"Your call is very important to us"

"Your conversation may be recorded............."

"Press 11 for Splanglish" :P

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This doesn't add up.

The claim is that people who were employed elsewhere, full time, (1) applied for jobs at the call center, (2) were told they were hired for full time positions, (3) quit their jobs, then (4) were told that the new jobs were only going to be part time.

My bullshit meter is well into the red zone.

"Those who became part-time were told they would have to pay full freight on their health plans, ranging from $600 to $1,200 a month for a single worker and between $1,400 to $2,900 a month for an employee with a family. That is a steep bill for employees with part-time jobs paying from $15.33 to $18.63 an hour."

Again, this strikes me as incredible. This is the OUT-OF-POCKET cost of the healthcare plans? And the employees are represented by the SEIU?

Bullshit.

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How are they supposed to guide others through the system if they don't have to do it themselves?
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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The first couple of weeks they will all be calling each other for advice on how to get health insurance.

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"Contra Costa was selected early on by the state to run the call center..."
The state budget allows for 180 customer service agents, half of them part-time, when the call center opens Oct. 1
dales wrote:Another Obama fustercluk! :ok
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Joe - the main inaccuracy in your "typical call" scenario is that you imagine that callers will get to speak to a real live person BEFORE having to listen to a recorded message. Very unrealistic.
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Whose idea was Obamacare to begin with?

Hint: NOT the state of CALIFRONIA.

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So half of the jobs will be full-time with benefits then.

Beats Walmart with a stick.

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Yeah, that's a fairly high yard stick, considering these jobs are UNION! :lol:

I feel bad for the poor schleps that got conned into working there.

From the article:
The new hires, many of whom left other full-time jobs for the call center positions, were told they were the "cream of the crop," the recent hire said.
Oh yeah, if you think that the SEIU gives 2 sihts for the workers, think again........those greedy bastards want your dues money!

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dales wrote:Yeah, that's a fairly high yard stick, considering these jobs are UNION! :lol:

I feel bad for the poor schleps that got conned into working there.

From the article:
The new hires, many of whom left other full-time jobs for the call center positions, were told they were the "cream of the crop," the recent hire said.



I'm trying hard not to laugh at the idea that someone getting a "call center" job was told they were the "cream of the crop"; and believed it.

And then someone repeated it!
Oh yeah, if you think that the SEIU gives 2 sihts for the workers, think again........those greedy bastards want your dues money!



As opposed to Romney-publicans who take your money and will still fuck you.



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really, dales, call center jobs which are full time AND provide full benefits are an extraordinary thing. More to be marveled at than criticized.

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Yeah, right.

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rubato wrote: I'm trying hard not to laugh at the idea that someone getting a "call center" job was told they were the "cream of the crop"; and believed it.
I'm trying hard not to criticize someone who thinks that someone who would work at a call center and be told he or she is 'cream of the crop' and believes it is somehow a gullible and/or inferior person.

That kind of thinking reveals a lot about the person who is struggling not to laugh.

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dales wrote:Whose idea was Obamacare to begin with?

Hint: NOT the state of CALIFRONIA.
:? Mitt Romney? Newt Gingrich? The Heritage Foundation?

My turn now? Okay:

Whose idea was the telephone to begin with?

Hint: NOT the state of MASSASCHUETTES. :mrgreen: :nana
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The simple point I was trying to make is that without Obama care (created by Obama administration) there'd be no need for this call center in CoCoCo.

Clear? :mrgreen:

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No problemo, I was just messin' with ya.... :ok
The state budget allows for 180 customer service agents, half of them part-time, when the call center opens Oct. 1
Well, I guess another way to look at it would be to realize that without Obamacare there would be 90 fewer full-time jobs and 90 fewer part-time jobs in Contra Costa County... ;)
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Joe Guy wrote:
rubato wrote: I'm trying hard not to laugh at the idea that someone getting a "call center" job was told they were the "cream of the crop"; and believed it.
I'm trying hard not to criticize someone who thinks that someone who would work at a call center and be told he or she is 'cream of the crop' and believes it is somehow a gullible and/or inferior person.

That kind of thinking reveals a lot about the person who is struggling not to laugh.

I have a higher opinion of humanity than you do, obviously.


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That's debatable :lol:

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