American Pharoah - Triple Crown material?

[BoSoxGal]

Did anybody watch the Preakness? Started pouring not long before the race was set to start, made for a great race and the Derby winner took it handily.

Wondering if this horse might be able to do what no horse has done in decades now . . .

[MajGenl.Meade]

It was on. Made watching paint dry interesting - it's the NASCAR of the horsey world.

[wesw]

I predict that man o war will tangle with pharaoh and hand him a stinging defeat in the belmont

[Lord Jim]

I'd like to see another horse do it. I remember watching Secretariat when I was a kid win the Belmont by something like 30 lengths; (man, what a horse...you don't see them like that very often) I believe he still has the race record time as well.

After that there were two more who won the Triple Crown in a relatively short period of time, (I remember reading an article about whether or not winning the Triple Crown had become too easy....) but not for the past 37 years. Here's the full list; only 11 horses have accomplished it:

919 | Sir Barton | John Loftus | H.G. Bedwell | J.K.L. Ross

1930 | Gallant Fox | Earl Sande | James Fitzsimmons | Belfair Stud

1935 | Omaha | William Saunders | James Fitzsimmons | Belair Stud

1937 | War Admiral | Charley Kurtsinger | George Conway | Samuel D. Riddle

1941 | Whirlaway | Eddie Acaro | Ben Jones | Calumet Farm

1943 | Count Fleet | John Longden | Don Cameron | Mrs. J.D. Hertz

1946 | Assault | Warren Mehrtens | Max Hirsch | King Ranch

1948 | Citation | Eddie Acaro | Ben Jones | Calumet Farm

1973 | Secretariat | Ron Turcotte | Lucien Laurin | Meadow Stable

1977 | Seattle Slew | Jean Cruget | William Turner Jr. | Karen Taylor

1978 | Affirmed | Steve Cauthen | Lazaro S. Barrera | Harbor View Farm

[MajGenl.Meade]

there have been a number of horces over the years that have won the Derby

"Next time, you spell ma name right, boy!"

[Lord Jim]

BTW, I was wrong saying that there were a number of horses to win the Derby and the Preakness but not the Belmont; in fact it appears there haven't been any...

Here's a link to a page with the list of horses that have won 2 out of three of the races. Just scroll down past the Derby winners. (I'm not going to copy and paste it because it's pasting completely jumbled and I'm not going to take the time to straighten it out) Apparently there hasn't been an single Derby/Preakness winner that failed to win the Belmont, so statistically speaking American Pharoh's chances are excellent.

http://www.horseracingnation.com/conten ... wn_winners#

[wesw]

you sure about that , jim?

[wesw]

17?

[wesw]

Triple Crown Near Misses

While there have only been 11 Triple Crown winners, there have plently of Triple Crown near misses. The list below contains horses that have won at least 2 of the 3 major races. There have been 17 horses that have won the Kentucky Derby and Preakness Stakes, but failed to win the Belmont Stakes. There have been 6 horses that won the Derby and Preakness and came in 2nd in the Belmont.






Triple Crown Near Misses


Year

Horse

Kentucky Derby

Preakness Stakes

Belmont Stakes


2008
Big Brown
1st

1st

9th


2005
Afleet Alex
3rd

1st

1st


2004
Smarty Jones
1st

1st

2nd


2003
Funny Cide
1st

1st

3rd


2002
War Emblem
1st

1st

8th


2001
Point Given
5th

1st

1st


1999
Charismatic
1st

1st

3rd


1998
Real Quiet
1st

1st

2nd


1997
Silver Charm
1st

1st

2nd


1995
Thunder Gulch
1st

3rd

1st


1994
Tabasco Cat
6th

1st

1st


1991
Hansel
10th

1st

1st


1989
Sunday Silence
1st

1st

2nd


1988
Risen Star
3rd

1st

1st


1987
Alysheba
1st

1st

4th


1984
Swale
1st

7th

1st


1981
Pleasant Colony
1st

1st

3rd


1979
Spectacular Bid
1st

1st

3rd


1976
Bold Forbes
1st

3rd

1st


1974
Little Current
5th

1st

1st


1972
Riva Ridge
1st

4th

1st


1971
Canonero II
1st

1st

4th


1969
Majestic Prince
1st

1st

2nd


1968
Forward Pass
1st*

1st

2nd


1967
Damascus
3rd

1st

1st


1966
Kauai King
1st

1st

4th


1964
Northern Dancer
1st

1st

3rd


1963
Chateaugay
1st

2nd

1st


1961
Carry Back
1st

1st

7th


1958
Tim Tam
1st

1st

2nd


1956
Needles
1st

2nd

1st


1955
Nashua
2nd

1st

1st


1953
Native Dancer
2nd

1st

1st


1950
Middleground
1st

2nd

1st


1949
Capot
2nd

1st

1st


1944
Pensive
1st

1st

2nd


1942
Shut Out
1st

5th

1st


1940
Bimelech
2nd

1st

1st


1939
Johnstown
1st

5th

1st


1936
Bold Venture
1st

1st

dns


1932
Burgoo King
1st

1st

dns


1931
Twenty Grand
1st

2nd

1st


1923
Zev
1st

12th

1st


1922
Pillory
dns

1st

1st


1920
Man o' War
dns

1st

1st


1895
Belmar
dns

1st

1st


1881
Saunterer
dns

1st

1st


1880
Grenada
dns

1st

1st


1878
Duke of Magenta
dns

1st

1st


1877
Cloverbrook
dns

1st

1st

* - won on a disqualification
dns - did not start







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[BoSoxGal]

I was gonna say . . . I know there are horses that have won two but not all three . . .

[Lord Jim]

Oh geezus, I read that wrong, I was right the first time...