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Yep did nothing for me. On celexa at the moment
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BTDT, C/P...............for around a year or so.

Eventually that pharm gave up the ghost and the psych doc suggest Cymbalta.

It's OK, I suppose until.................................. :shrug

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Cymbalta gave me the sweats worked fine other than that.
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C-P, celexa is Citalopram, a good'n, for the right person, we have a version sold as cipramil in Aus.

Can I ask what dose? Or PM me maybe.
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I think 20mg I could give you a sure answer but then I'd have to go and look at the bottle.
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"Come back and talk to me about it after you've done your first four years in medical college."
That sounds about right to me....

I have to say that personally, I find the long lists of "common side affects" that accompany most of these ads, rather off putting; they actually make me less likely to have any interest in most of these pills...

I've seen ads for sleeping pills that list as a "common side affect"... "restlessness"

And ads for anti-depressants that list, "thoughts of suicide"....

I don't know about you, but it seems to me that if there's one thing a sleeping pill shouldn't do it's cause "restlessness".....

And if there's one thing an anti-depressant shouldn't do, it's cause "thoughts of suicide"....

Seems like that sort of defeats the whole purpose....

Kinda like if a "common side of affect" of aspirin was "severe headaches"....

Or a fire extinguisher that has a tendency to explode into flames when used....

If someone goes from feeling blue and having trouble getting up and facing the day, to feeling like sucking on the business end of a Winchester after they start taking an "anti-depressant", they really aren't headed in the right direction...
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Crackpot wrote:I think 20mg I could give you a sure answer but then I'd have to go and look at the bottle.
Lightweight! :nana

(I was on 40 mg.)

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Been on:
Paxil
Prozac
Zoloft
Celexa
Cymbalta

Presently on the last. Have suffered SAD unmedicated/untreated since my teens, then a handful of major depressive episodes over the years starting with one in graduate school. Largely to blame for all but the first was my insistence to get off the meds. I've done well for many months at a time meds-free, but always end up back in the deep dark place absent any particular external stimuli (other than residual baggage from an abusive childhood and a particularly traumatic event in my late teens).

I expect to be on SSRIs going forward, unless menopause triggers some fundamental change in my brain chemistry. Or, unless I can find a mental health professional willing to treat me with MDMA - I've read that results of one or two sessions with it can be profoundly positive and long-lasting.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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Crackpot wrote:I think 20mg I could give you a sure answer but then I'd have to go and look at the bottle.
That's a maintenance dose if true, good for you mate.

Despite all my "interesting" quirks, and propensity to (over)indulge in recreational substances, I have never ever been prescribed any psychiatric meds. (I cannot say I haven't "taken" any though.) Having worked in mental health since the dark ages, I can honestly say I see the value in these medications when prescribed properly.

I find the whole idea of advertising them really dangerous.
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It was a beginning dose and I'm currently between doctors Depression is good but irritability is a little bothersome.
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Are you getting/have you tried any CBT or any of the "talking therapies" mate?
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I don't do TLAs did do talking therapies don't really help when you already realize you're being irrational. and then there's all those other times when i;m dealing with one (or more) of the assholes in this world.
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Crackpot wrote: and then there's all those other times when i;m dealing with one (or more) of the assholes in this world.

fair enough, I'll shut the fuck up then :D
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I told you what I didn't like about talk therapy; that you can talk, but they aren't really listening. It's supposed to be an hour of therapy, but: they keep you in their chair for 45 min. talking to yourself (why are you paying them, then?) ...and spending the last 15min. scheduling your next appointment, and reading them your insurance card numbers.

My buddy Red loves to call his military-mandated therapist; 'The-Rapist' :D He is not amused, but it gets a honest human reaction outta him. ;)

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Lord Jim wrote:"...

And ads for anti-depressants that list, "thoughts of suicide"....

...

And if there's one thing an anti-depressant shouldn't do, it's cause "thoughts of suicide"....

... "


People who are severely depressed cannot summon the energy to ideate, plan, and carry out suicide. Once the level of depression is reduced they can. That is why treating depression is a risk factor for suicide.



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bump

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It was something I was warned about when prescribed anti-depressants. I remember telling my doctor beforehand, when he asked about suicidal ideation, that I simply didn't care enough about whether I lived or died to go to the trouble of committing suicide. It was something he warned me to be aware of as I began treatment; fortunately I was one of those whose depression lifted without going through that stage.
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