No, you wouldn't. You would be...bigskygal wrote:
I'd have to change my initials here!!
Hmmm . . . that's something to think about.
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Treat Gaza like Carthage.
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Houston is hot for sure, it averages 100 days/year over 90 degrees. But the real issues are the humidity, its a big swamp, and the air quality - just about the worst in the nation.
"Energy" work in Houston is oil and gas work. Lots of leasing rights I'd bet.
"Energy" work in Houston is oil and gas work. Lots of leasing rights I'd bet.
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Yes, basically landman work - at $450/day + benefits - with the potential for some interesting litigation.
Yeah, Houston's the new LA when it comes to air quality.
But, after four years there, I'd be in the position to head 'home' to southcoast MA or coastal Maine, or back to Montana - without being constrained by student loan concerns in consideration of work.
I've been in Montana just over four years now. It went by pretty fast. Of course I love it here, so 'doing time' here isn't hard time.
Yeah, Houston's the new LA when it comes to air quality.
But, after four years there, I'd be in the position to head 'home' to southcoast MA or coastal Maine, or back to Montana - without being constrained by student loan concerns in consideration of work.I've been in Montana just over four years now. It went by pretty fast. Of course I love it here, so 'doing time' here isn't hard time.
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I doubt you'll be in THAT office very long.
I imagine you'll be doing most of the travel "leg work".
They've been coming through here as of late checking mineral rights, eventually they'll want to start strip mining Lignite. They've been doing alot of business in the Fayettville shale gas deposit area.
I figger Guin knows a bunch a bout this kinda stuff though...
I imagine you'll be doing most of the travel "leg work".
They've been coming through here as of late checking mineral rights, eventually they'll want to start strip mining Lignite. They've been doing alot of business in the Fayettville shale gas deposit area.
I figger Guin knows a bunch a bout this kinda stuff though...
Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is
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Take it!
The only thing you've not mentioned that could queer it for me is if it were a position that would require an extraordinary time commitment (say, 70 hrs/wk), which could make it impossible to develop an edifying existence outside the office.
You seem like the sort of person who could build a perfectly satisfactory life just about anywhere. And Houston is a big enough city that there are surely people with interests similar to yours that you could hook up with.
Every change like that is a "commencement": an opportunity for exciting new opportunities of all kinds. Go for it.
The only thing you've not mentioned that could queer it for me is if it were a position that would require an extraordinary time commitment (say, 70 hrs/wk), which could make it impossible to develop an edifying existence outside the office.
You seem like the sort of person who could build a perfectly satisfactory life just about anywhere. And Houston is a big enough city that there are surely people with interests similar to yours that you could hook up with.
Every change like that is a "commencement": an opportunity for exciting new opportunities of all kinds. Go for it.
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My friend who works there indicates she is expected to bill 40 hours/week, and can usually bill them in 40-45 hours, because there are basically no interruptions to research & title opinion writing. The firm allows flexibility in hours in the office, so long as the billables are met - in other words, she can work 8-5 or 9-6 or 10-7 or take a weekday off and do a weekend day, etc. She says great office atmosphere, office casual attire most days, really nice people.
It sounds too perfect. Except, it's in Houston.
I would not ever love living there - or any city, probably. But if my expectations are low, anything good in addition to the ability to pay off debt would be icing on the cake. And I'd be in a position after at most five years to return to a rural location and buy a little spread of my own.
It's just that my life here is very good. It's hard to contemplate leaving.
eta: But on the other hand, in 7 years' time I could earn 1 million dollars! That's mindboggling to me - even though it's the same kind of salary my fellow law classmates were stepping into in DC, NY after graduation - but they were regularly working 90-100 hours/week.
It sounds too perfect. Except, it's in Houston.
I would not ever love living there - or any city, probably. But if my expectations are low, anything good in addition to the ability to pay off debt would be icing on the cake. And I'd be in a position after at most five years to return to a rural location and buy a little spread of my own.
It's just that my life here is very good. It's hard to contemplate leaving.
eta: But on the other hand, in 7 years' time I could earn 1 million dollars! That's mindboggling to me - even though it's the same kind of salary my fellow law classmates were stepping into in DC, NY after graduation - but they were regularly working 90-100 hours/week.
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Since I have first known you what 12 years?, you have hadwanderlust every 12-18 months (the main factor why my name for you has always been 'location gal')
More of the same? People will always come up with valid (to them) excuses to do what pops into their head.
More of the same? People will always come up with valid (to them) excuses to do what pops into their head.
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I first posted on CSB in 2005 - 6 years ago.
I did leave Yuma after 19 months, and Massachusetts (somewhat reluctantly) after a year working for an abusive manager - who was later forced to resign and was sued for sexual harassment.
I chose to come to Montana, a place I've dreamed of since my youth. I've been here over 4 years, except a few months spent nursing a dying friend in NM while laid off in '09. Absent this insanely lucrative opportunity, it wouldn't occur to me to leave here. In fact, I'm agonizing over the prospect.
For the record: I lived the first 9 years of my life in MA, until my parents made me move with them to AZ. I returned to New England at 18, and stayed - in Maine - to age 27, when I moved to DC for law school. Three years later I returned to Maine and stayed until age 35, when need of employment in my field forced a relocation.
I don't regret any of the places I've lived because I've met wonderful people to love & be loved by everywhere, and I've had many great experiences. But I'd have been perfectly content to live my whole life in southcoast MA, had I not been made to leave as a child.
I don't dispute a certain inner battle between a desire for rootedness and a desire to see new places & do new things. One reason the Houston job appeals is that I'd be debt-free quicker and able to pursue desire to work abroad.
Is wanting to experience as much as possible in my one life evidence of bad character, quad?
I did leave Yuma after 19 months, and Massachusetts (somewhat reluctantly) after a year working for an abusive manager - who was later forced to resign and was sued for sexual harassment.
I chose to come to Montana, a place I've dreamed of since my youth. I've been here over 4 years, except a few months spent nursing a dying friend in NM while laid off in '09. Absent this insanely lucrative opportunity, it wouldn't occur to me to leave here. In fact, I'm agonizing over the prospect.
For the record: I lived the first 9 years of my life in MA, until my parents made me move with them to AZ. I returned to New England at 18, and stayed - in Maine - to age 27, when I moved to DC for law school. Three years later I returned to Maine and stayed until age 35, when need of employment in my field forced a relocation.
I don't regret any of the places I've lived because I've met wonderful people to love & be loved by everywhere, and I've had many great experiences. But I'd have been perfectly content to live my whole life in southcoast MA, had I not been made to leave as a child.
I don't dispute a certain inner battle between a desire for rootedness and a desire to see new places & do new things. One reason the Houston job appeals is that I'd be debt-free quicker and able to pursue desire to work abroad.
Is wanting to experience as much as possible in my one life evidence of bad character, quad?
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
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If I had the opportunity to live someplace else because of a job that paid well enough to get me out of debt AND enable me to put some money aside, I think I'd go for it. If I were in my 30s or 40s, probably even more so.
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Hopefully I didn't jinx things by talking about the opportunity - but then, I do love my life in Montana, so perhaps a jinx wouldn't be.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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It sounds from what you've written that you'd be OK with either outcome (just a bit less broke with one!).
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Houston is just a place you have to slow down for the traffic on the way from Santa Cruz to New Orleans.
Nasty, Hot, Humid, buggy and it's in Texas; a 900 mile wide hellhole on I-10.
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Nasty, Hot, Humid, buggy and it's in Texas; a 900 mile wide hellhole on I-10.
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no not at all, but there is something appealing about roots, or at least tentacles.bigskygal wrote:I first posted on CSB in 2005 - 6 years ago.
I did leave Yuma after 19 months, and Massachusetts (somewhat reluctantly) after a year working for an abusive manager - who was later forced to resign and was sued for sexual harassment.
I chose to come to Montana, a place I've dreamed of since my youth. I've been here over 4 years, except a few months spent nursing a dying friend in NM while laid off in '09. Absent this insanely lucrative opportunity, it wouldn't occur to me to leave here. In fact, I'm agonizing over the prospect.
For the record: I lived the first 9 years of my life in MA, until my parents made me move with them to AZ. I returned to New England at 18, and stayed - in Maine - to age 27, when I moved to DC for law school. Three years later I returned to Maine and stayed until age 35, when need of employment in my field forced a relocation.
I don't regret any of the places I've lived because I've met wonderful people to love & be loved by everywhere, and I've had many great experiences. But I'd have been perfectly content to live my whole life in southcoast MA, had I not been made to leave as a child.
I don't dispute a certain inner battle between a desire for rootedness and a desire to see new places & do new things. One reason the Houston job appeals is that I'd be debt-free quicker and able to pursue desire to work abroad.
Is wanting to experience as much as possible in my one life evidence of bad character, quad?
if you leave, do you shoot yourself for coming back?
does the lawyer profession see such mass migrations in a negative light? (in my profession it would be....)
and only 6 years seriously? it just seems like 12
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There is no subtitute for working a job you love to do great pay can only hold you so long/
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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I absolutely agree, CP.
That's why I would go into it with the express and sole purpose to cancel my student loan debt.
Once my student loan debt is cancelled, I'd have the freedom to work a job I truly love. I suspect I would go back to teaching, and I would be free to do it wherever I want to be - absent salary considerations, so long as I made enough to meet my basic needs.
My present job is one that I love, all things considered. The biggest of the things to be considered is my student loan debt. I think I've always been up front about that issue.
I am really struggling. Part of me hopes the opportunity doesn't present itself, because I think I would have to take it.
But I really love my life here in so many ways; it's low stress in terms of living in a small, friendly town where I am well-respected and have good friends, good coworkers, good neighbors and a 5 block commute to work. I am also minutes and/or hours from some of the most fantastic scenery I've ever seen in my life.
However, it's high stress in that I deal with some very difficult opposing counsel and a trial attorney's life is always ruled by the Court's docket - so I put in a lot of long hours that are never renumerated. I also look forward to repaying student loans into my early 50s if I stay where I am. I know many people do; I'm just not too terribly keen on that idea. I don't care for debt, even 'good' debt.
That's why I would go into it with the express and sole purpose to cancel my student loan debt.
Once my student loan debt is cancelled, I'd have the freedom to work a job I truly love. I suspect I would go back to teaching, and I would be free to do it wherever I want to be - absent salary considerations, so long as I made enough to meet my basic needs.
My present job is one that I love, all things considered. The biggest of the things to be considered is my student loan debt. I think I've always been up front about that issue.
I am really struggling. Part of me hopes the opportunity doesn't present itself, because I think I would have to take it.
But I really love my life here in so many ways; it's low stress in terms of living in a small, friendly town where I am well-respected and have good friends, good coworkers, good neighbors and a 5 block commute to work. I am also minutes and/or hours from some of the most fantastic scenery I've ever seen in my life.
However, it's high stress in that I deal with some very difficult opposing counsel and a trial attorney's life is always ruled by the Court's docket - so I put in a lot of long hours that are never renumerated. I also look forward to repaying student loans into my early 50s if I stay where I am. I know many people do; I'm just not too terribly keen on that idea. I don't care for debt, even 'good' debt.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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LMAO - I saw the thread title and automatically thought that this was one of Gob's 'Minx or Minger' threads...
The way I see it BSG is that by taking the job for a while you will end up with the best of both worlds: Being able to do what you love and being debt free.
The way I see it BSG is that by taking the job for a while you will end up with the best of both worlds: Being able to do what you love and being debt free.
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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No telling, soon she could be a 1%'er! 
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
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I'd never say anything so sexist!Sean wrote:LMAO - I saw the thread title and automatically thought that this was one of Gob's 'Minx or Minger' threads...
in any case the expression is; "fox or hound...."
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