She probably cried to Jesus to save her...

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Scooter
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She probably cried to Jesus to save her...

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...instead he let her die in the Texas floods so she could marry him.

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Perhaps Meade could expand on this but, other than the Roman (and perhaps orthodox and maybe Anglican/Episcopalian churches) I am unaware of any christian churches who believe Jesus is the bridegroom of particular members (those exceptions call their nuns/sisters the "brides of christ"); jesus is usually seen as the bridegroom of the church as a whole (I think RC priests are seen that way as well), so I am not sure what the poster is referring to here. But losing a child of any age is traumatic and unbearable pain; if this belief brings her peace. I will not mock it.

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Given what I’ve seen of the majority of marriages, she likely skipped a lot of heartache by passing Go and going straight to a marriage with Jesus in Heaven.

In all seriousness, I have always been puzzled by the contradiction inherent in some religious people’s attitudes toward death. If the afterlife is blissful, why are we so obsessed with not getting there too fast? Aren’t the folks who die young luckier than the folks who have to endure the pains of life in a broken world much longer before they achieve the sweet release of death from the temporal world?

The issue of the living missing the dead is a separate one necessarily- of course the absence of a beloved, especially a child, is going to greatly exacerbate the pains of the temporal world for the survivors.

I had an elder sister who died at six weeks of age because my mother put her face down on the sofa to nap while she went to have a Winston. I’ve been more than a little jealous of that sister since I was a grade schooler and first learned about her - imagine going straight to the arms of Jesus (who loves the little children) and missing out on all the fun of growing up with alcoholic abusive sperm donor and abusive enabler womb bearer? It sounded like a better hand than the one I was dealt.

Just a random thought. I sometimes envy all our friends who haven’t had to see what’s happening in this country at this moment. As an athiest I suspect the only thing that lies beyond is an eternal dirt nap - but that still appeals on many days that I make mistake to watch the news.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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BoSoxGal wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:37 pm
I sometimes envy all our friends who haven’t had to see what’s happening in this country at this moment. As an athiest I suspect the only thing that lies beyond is an eternal dirt nap - but that still appeals on many days that I make mistake to watch the news.
This too shall pass.
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Big RR wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:12 pm
Perhaps Meade could expand on this
No, I think you hit it, thank you.
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts

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