Looks Like A Desperate Attempt To Change The Subject...

Big RR · Post by **Big RR** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:07 pm

True, but don't waste money and time investigating if there is no evidence of such actions occurring--and Donald Trump saying so without more is NOT evidence.

BoSoxGal · Post by **BoSoxGal** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:16 pm

But but, but . . . It's on Breitbart!

liberty · Post by **liberty** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:17 pm

Big RR wrote:True, but don't waste money and time investigating if there is no evidence of such actions occurring--and Donald Trump saying so without more is NOT evidence.

Why not wasting money is what the government is good at; there have many investigation that have gone no where and some that have been prosecuted with poor evidence.

Big RR · Post by **Big RR** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:37 pm

To me it would be pointless without even a shred of evidence.

Crackpot · Post by **Crackpot** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:57 pm

It's only wasteful if a "liberal" does it.

BoSoxGal · Post by **BoSoxGal** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:26 pm

$30 million on Benghazi and Hillary's emails, $52 million on Bill's BlowJobGate

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:11 am

liberty wrote:... After all the Obama administration did do things that were suspicious such as Operation Fast and furious and failure to prosecute black panthers for voter intimidation. And targeting the Republican governor of Virginia

So there! Nah...nah...nah!

Econoline · Post by **Econoline** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:45 am

wesw · Post by **wesw** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:08 pm

former attorney general mukasey seems to think that trump was right.

james clapper looked about as dishonest as a person could look in his denials..., makes sense since he is known to lie under oath....

and known to spie on our own govt...., and people....

all of you lawyers should be aware of the physical tells that show up when one lies...., they were all there.

trump always seems to be right about these things....

the NSA is not a friend of the People.

1984 is here and we saw it coming.

treason is born in Hawaii....., or maybe Kenya.....

one world..... one world......

wesw · Post by **wesw** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:16 pm

ah well.....

back to trying to fix my broken vehicles.....

....have fun destroying our republic.

methinks that we will all regret your efforts.

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:17 pm

If Trump is right about this, then there was enough evidence of criminal activity to convince a judge to issue a wiretap warrant.

I for one would be fascinated to hear that evidence aired in public.

Big RR · Post by **Big RR** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:20 pm

trump always seems to be right about these things....

Please

Stop it, I can't take it

Scooter--if that evidence exists, I would like to hear it as well; but I have yet to see one shred of evidence of any kind--and I can't accept the word of Trump

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:21 pm

Big RR wrote:I can't accept the rod of Trump

Who would?

Except wes, of course. It's amazing that the boy can sit without wincing.

Big RR · Post by **Big RR** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:26 pm

Thanks for catching the typo, which I corrected.

Big RR · Post by **Big RR** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:29 pm

....have fun destroying our republic.

I may regret this, but how does criticizing a president or discussing issues destroy our republic? I would think the ab8ility to do this is the major strength of our republic, regardless of who is president.

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:31 pm

wesw wrote:former attorney general mukasey seems to think that trump was right....

....trump always seems to be right about these things....

1984 is here and we saw it coming.

...treason is born in Hawaii....., or maybe Kenya.....

one world..... one world......

Lord Jim wrote:
Nowhere except in the Fact Free Zone of the darkest recesses of hardcore Trumpanzee Land is the story about this going to be the myth of Big Bad Obama and His Fiendish Nixonian Wiretaps...

BoSoxGal · Post by **BoSoxGal** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:02 pm

wesw wrote:all of you lawyers should be aware of the physical tells that show up when one lies...., they were all there.

Actually, lawyers with experience in criminal law and who are keeping up with the most current psychological and criminal justice research know that there are, in fact, NO easily discernible 'tells' that indicate deception because each human being's reactions and actions in any given context are as unique as they are. Reid Technique bullshit has been proven to be just that, and to have have elicited hundreds of false confessions from actually innocent persons presumed guilty by barely literate cops employing said techniques and their imagined super powers of perception.

But whatever.

When, exactly, are you taking a real leave of absence from this toxic place?

wesw · Post by **wesw** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:57 pm

well. RR. you may...

first I ll say that the remark in question was meant mostly for sue, jim and guin.

I could have easily included BargainBill and BSgal on the above list, but I find that pointless.

bill is rabid to the point of insanity and bigsky is so insecure and instable that she makes herself irrelevant.

(yes BSgal, I know that it should be spelled with an "un", but I wrote it the way I wanted to write it, as is my inalienable write.

) I do amuse myself sometimes...

so....

RR, maybe you could see things from the other side for a moment?

just to pick a reasonable number, say 50 per cent of the folks support trump.

most are like me, I think, blue collar folks who love America and don t consider themselves to be racist or whatever, unless they have what they think are good reasons to dislike folks.

I know that I m called racist or whatever all the time here, but I don t recall you, jim, guin,meade, joe, oldr or others that I respect here calling me racist or whatever, and I would be surprised if you thought of me as such....

now.., those 45-50% of folks who support trump..., well. many of them believe that our govt of for and by the People hangs in the balance.

they believe that if trump s foes bring him down, that the people will have been defeated and that our govt is no longer our own.

they see him as our last chance to reclaim what is being lost..., a govt of for and by the people.

I see that.

if trump is overthrown by the "establishment" or the "deep state" or Soros or Clinton or whomever..., I expect our country to disintegrate into factions and into riotous chaos, eventually ending in war (both civil and invasive in our country) and actual disintegration into smaller states.

the left is riotous now. trump supporters and conservatives are being beaten in the streets and on campuses.

we have become less than human in some eyes and deserving of nothing but what they give us.

the only reason that I am not stocking up on food and ammo and preparing to head for the hills is faith, and most probably stupidity. (my poor health is also a factor.)

I must have faith that America will survive and that we will not turn on each other violently.

without it, hope is lost for me.

so that is another view for you to consider, RR.

I only bothered to answer you because of my great respect for you and my belief that you are good.

now I really must remove holly s power steering pump . the weather is good and times awaisting...

(I have come to hate working on vehicles, it just hurts too much, but everything does these days.... I can t even hold my freakin head up....)

ah well.... iv e earned it.... (insert wry smile here)

wes

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:28 pm

Good ol' wes -- he's back with a vengeance. From strange musings to now rambling manifestos.

He never fails to disappoint.

Big RR · Post by **Big RR** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:39 pm

wesw--I understand your concern, but face it, throughout our history no president has ever been "brought down"; indeed, the bring themselves down. People can protest decisions and affect legislation and how much of an agenda a president can get done, but they cannot force a president from office. Even in times it came close: Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton, they did not force Congress to act or vote a certain way--and even Nixon, who was completely guilty, chose to resign and was not forced out. If Trump does something worthy of removing him from office, I would hope his supporters would see that it was his actions that caused it.

FWIW, while I have supported presidents in the past, I have NEVER seen one as a last chance for America. come on, this country is bigger than any one man or woman. my loyalty is always to the country, not to the chief executive, and the system of government, not any one man or woman. So, I honestly do not understand the faith you are placing in Mr. Trump--no man or woman deserves that sort of faith IMHO.

We have been times when we have been divided, and times when we have been united as a people, but our union is around the country, not any person.

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